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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (81560)	3/25/2010 2:49:06 PM
From: TideGlider	Respond to of 224729

I would tell them that Obama is spending the money now. Part of his "jobs" Bill allows employers not to pay SS on new employees for at least a year. Part of his first stimulus was a reduction in payroll taxes. Blame Bama. he is spending it now on Turtle bridges, airport for a dead congressmen etc etc etc

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (81560)	3/31/2010 12:53:21 PM
From: TimF	3 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 224729

Tim, would you like to be the first to tell the boomer generation they won't receive their full SS payments That doesn't really have any connection to my point. Sure the recipients want the spending, and may vote out people who reduce it, but that doesn't change the point that its government spending like any other government spending, or address the issue that the whole idea of the SS trust fund is almost meaningless. because the Government spent the money on Bush's Iraq War and tax cuts for the rich That tax cuts where for almost all federal income tax payers, and where not spending anything. The Iraq war was only a small part of the spending by the US government since the war started, and its also temporary spending unlike entitlements, so its tiny compared to the unfunded entitlement liability.