To: RetiredNow who wrote (557168 ) 3/26/2010 5:48:12 PM From: tejek Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1571204 In the Republican party, message discipline has always been a hallmark and it has been their historical source of strength. However, we're now seeing the downsides to a party system that simply does not allow dissent. It creates inbred thinking, resists the flow of new and innovative thinking, and resists change of any kind. When change is introduced, the backlash is immediate and vitriolic, because it is seen as an existential threat. Negotiation with anything that looks different becomes impossible. This kind of thinking, therefore, is systemically anti-Democratic. Democracy in its very essence allows for dissent and message chaos. It seeks to build consensus and the middle path through negotiation. As we've seen, the GOP has become so inbred, that no negotiation is possible. Historical source of strength notwithstanding, I think we are now seeing the implosion of the GOP. If America loves Democracy, then she cannot stand for a party that is Totalitarian in its modus operandi. Did you hear about David Frum getting fired from a conservative think tank because he said the Rs used the wrong tactic re. HCR....that they should have engaged the Dems in order to insure that some of their positions were included in the bill? Frum is a conservative to whom I can at least relate even as I disagree with many of his positions. And he's no light weight conservative....he was a neo who worked for Bush. This article talks about his firing:Republican elite in disarray after David Frum is sacked by think-tank timesonline.co.uk "One of the more striking features of the contemporary conservative movement is the extent to which it has been moving toward epistemic closure. Reality is defined by a multimedia array of interconnected and cross promoting conservative blogs, radio programs, magazines, and of course, Fox News. Whatever conflicts with that reality can be dismissed out of hand because it comes from the liberal media, and is therefore ipso facto not to be trusted. (How do you know they’re liberal? Well, they disagree with the conservative media!) This epistemic closure can be a source of solidarity and energy, but it also renders the conservative media ecosystem fragile. Think of the complete panic China’s rulers feel about any breaks in their Internet firewall: The more successfully external sources of information have been excluded to date, the more unpredictable the effects of a breach become. Internal criticism is then especially problematic, because it threatens the hermetic seal." You know more Rs than I........what are they saying about all this garbage?