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Politics : A US National Health Care System? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Sdgla who wrote (15621)	3/28/2010 3:26:53 PM
From: Alighieri	2 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 42652

I suggested we begin a negotiation to address the health care cost issues. 1 step at a time. If you cannot understand how eliminating the vast bureaucratic mess that has been created at the employer base point as a good first step in lowering costs then please suggest your first step towards lowering costs to me. Single payer...it's really the only true cost reducing measure with demonstrated cases studies around the globe. It has to be done carefully to keep from affecting quality of care, but there are countries around the world that have done that successfully. Do you have a group auto insurance plan for everyone in your company ? How about a group life insurance plan ? Your home owners insurance tied to everyone at work ? How do you know it would not be cheaper if you could pool and negotiate rates as a group? That's exactly why both dems and reps agree on state exchanges. For example, I buy auto and home insurance through Costco and I get an unbeatable rate simply because Costco negotiates group rates on my behalf. Re Belgium... yes I have lived outside the US and I do business with people who have left countries run by tyrants and dictators. Well, I don't like countries run by tyrants and dictators either, but that's not the case with the vast majority of European countries, where national health care prevails and where costs are a good might lower. Are you sure your an engineer ? Last time I checked...your point? I pointed some out to you and asked if you admired them since you seem to have so much disdain for America's place in the world. I will ask you again. Other than the US, which country are you placing high up as an example to the world ? You are taking the question to an extreme...it is not a matter of admiring countries in the absolute sense...that's too big a statement. I am talking about countries that do health care well...France and Japan for instance have excellent health care systems...both single payer. I would not want to liberalize the US to the degree that France has, particularly in labor laws, but that doesn't mean that there not are things we can learn from them. Al