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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: lorne who wrote (81973)	4/2/2010 12:16:34 AM
From: MJ	Respond to of 224728

First Reply----mj While Poe is a recognized author and got these statistics from HHS , I question thee statistics that just 5% of the population accounts for 50 percent of health care spent in America. If that is so------------then lets consider that it is likely that this 5% of the population had "pre-existing" conditions prior to being over 65. I ask, Didn't Obama tout this legislation as treating people with pre-existing conditions"? Now he would deny treatment to people over 65 because they have a little age on them with pre-existing conditions?? So Obama is now ready to throw "Momma or Grandma under the bus"----except it isn't the Campaign Bus it is now the Obama Socialist Bus of non-care. Too bad, Grandma didn't live to tell us about Obama's birth---her death coincided with Obama going to Hawaii just at the time of the lawsuits being filed near the end of the Primary Election. "He is right," Poe wrote. "According to a 2006 study by the Department of Health and Human Services, five percent of the U.S. population accounts for nearly 50 percent of health care spending in America. Who are those five percent? Most are people over 65 years of age with serious, chronic illnesses. "By contrast, the study notes, half of the U.S. population 'spends little or nothing on health care… with annual medical spending below $664 per person.' These, of course, are mostly healthy young people – people without serious, chronic illnesses," Poe wrote. "

To: lorne who wrote (81973)	4/2/2010 12:41:31 AM
From: MJ	2 Recommendations Respond to of 224728

"Some of the "old, the dying and the chronically ill" appear to be catching on. According to a report from Fox News, an estimated 60,000 members of AARP, which endorsed "Obamacare," have turned in their cards and canceled their memberships in recent weeks." Mj Comment: AARP has been advertising heavily for their membership and insurance in this area. Today, I learned that AARP is actually a middle man for United Health CAre. I contacted AARP about their insurances-----what an eye-opener. By the time one buys all of the insurance one might need using AARP----- a significant proportion of a social security recipient's income is taken up in insurance costs. There are policies that cover separately the following: Medicare Supplementary that takes care of the amount that Medicare doesn't pay for hospitilzation Drug (medicine coverage) which has 3 levels, called tiers of insurance. The tiers proscribe (not prescribe) what medicines you can buy and have coverage for under a given tier. There is "no choice" in what you can buy--------if you are allergic to ingredients in the generics, sorry you pay for the pills that aren't on the list at full price. Dental----very poor coverage. Maximum is about $1500. per year. Dental in the D.C. area can run into the thousands of dollars. Vision------their card if used entitles you to a discount at the big mall places. No assurance that you get a discount at local professionals. This of course encourages people to frequent the big business places-------rather than support the local doctor. Thus, by the time you are finished with perusing AARP's smorgasboard--------you could possibly have 4 insurance policies in addtion to the Medicare basic insurance. Something is wrong with this picture. AARP endorsed the Obamacare package and now they want to profit from selling its members insurance that they profit from by soliciting the clients through AARP.