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To: yard_man who wrote (9356)	11/5/1997 1:44:00 PM
From: hpeace	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Barry, excellently put. we need but understand John 3:16 and Roman 10:9-10...and that's it. God didn't want only PhD's in Heaven. that would be boring.<ggg> I buy the OT and it's as important as NT, but those two scriptures is all we need..and we need them w/o being religious too since a deaf person or person who cannot speak can still be saved even though Romans 10 says "confess with you mouth and beleive in you heart" I think the beleive in you heart is the biggest issue anyway. The Word is a sharp two edge sword....when we are saved we tagged for battle. Although we are in the battle saved or not. Christians are the only group I know that use their weapons on their own group. They are the only group that when one of us is wounded(sins and falls away) then we stab the wounded. I'll use this as merely an example althoguh I don't agree with many of his old teachings. When Swaggert fell away, Christians put more swords in him than the world did. Swaggert use to be diametrically viewed on my views of music. We were the exact opposite opinions on the rock beat in christian music. But, he had my undying support during his rough periods. David Wilkerson has flip flopped many times on rock and christain music. He now is against it, but I send his ministry money every year. His opinion on music to my means nothing. His ministry with the homeless and poor and drug addicts in New York is all I care about.

To: yard_man who wrote (9356)	11/6/1997 10:04:00 PM
From: Ronald P. Margraf Sr.	Respond to of 39621

Barry, To follow the teachings of the NT is not to say that one forget the OT> What I am saying is to understand it, not follow it. The OT is a history of the events that lead up to the NT> Nothing more nothing less. If you take it one step beyond that then you are missing the point. You are now getting into religion and I will not get into religious beleifs. That is the same as getting into a political decussion about Democrates vs. Republicans. There are no winners let alone survivors. R