To: bentway who wrote (559262 ) 4/6/2010 9:20:19 PM From: Brumar89 2 Recommendations Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1578020 I didn't claim anything like "Jesus was in favor of the amassing of pointless wealth" as you well know. Mark 10:21 & Luke 14:33 were addressed to specific people at a specific time during his ministry, not everyone for all time. You can find other verses and twist them to pretend Jesus wanted everyone to be a pacifist and to renounce all family ties. This is found shortly before the Luke 14:33 passage you quoted and its even more extreme:Luke 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. I will tell you that Jesus does NOT really want his followers to hate their familes. Consider also the story of Zaccheus - Luke 19. Zachaeus was a wealth sinner who gave away half of his wealth and pledged to pay back anyone who he cheated, but he's not depicted as giving away everything he owned: 1Jesus entered Jericho and was passing through. 2A man was there by the name of Zacchaeus; he was a chief tax collector and was wealthy. 3He wanted to see who Jesus was, but being a short man he could not, because of the crowd. 4So he ran ahead and climbed a sycamore-fig tree to see him, since Jesus was coming that way. 5When Jesus reached the spot, he looked up and said to him, "Zacchaeus, come down immediately. I must stay at your house today." 6So he came down at once and welcomed him gladly. 7All the people saw this and began to mutter, "He has gone to be the guest of a 'sinner.' " 8But Zacchaeus stood up and said to the Lord, "Look, Lord! Here and now I give half of my possessions to the poor, and if I have cheated anybody out of anything, I will pay back four times the amount." 9Jesus said to him, "Today salvation has come to this house, because this man, too, is a son of Abraham. biblegateway.com BTW the Bible has an example of Satan citing scripture for an evil purpose.