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To: Claude Cormier who wrote (35746)4/8/2010 2:08:23 PM
From: russet1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 233807
 
Goldmoney is a promise you can take delivery. When you really need it there will likely be no internet, no ability to deliver and the gold in their vaults could be stolen.

Gold jewelry can be taken just about anywhere in the world and I speak from experience. It is as safe as you. You must look fierce :-)



To: Claude Cormier who wrote (35746)4/8/2010 2:48:26 PM
From: Proud Deplorable  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 233807
 
BTW Claude, ALL US citizens are required to declare this account they have with Goldmoney to Homeland Security because it is considered a foreign account and it takes cash. Failure to do so and if caught can result in anywhere from a 10,000.00 fine to half a million for money laundering. I don't see you telling people this. Any US citizens who own Canadian trading accounts or have a separate account with say CEF are also required to file.

People who own physical precious metals are NOT required to file because there is now way to assess the value and they can't be audited.

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Laws Governing TD F 90-22.1
Requirements, Penalties, and Laws

Who Must File TD F 90-22.1
Every US citizen or resident alien, partnership, corporation, estate, or trust must file TD F 90-22.1 if they have "financial interest in or signature authority, or other authority over any financial accounts, including bank, securities, or other types of financial accounts in a foreign country, if the aggregate value of these financial accounts exceeds $10,000 at any time during the calendar year." (From the Instructions for TD F 90-22.1)

Exceptions to Filing
You do not need to report accounts held at US military banking facilities, even if those banks are located in foreign countries. Military banks are considered US banks.

You do not need to report accounts held at banks located in Guam, Puerto Rico, and the US Virgin Islands.

You also do not need to report US-based accounts held by a branch or division of a foreign bank.

Penalties for Not Filing
The Treasury Department may impose very stiff penalties for failing to file TD F 90-22.1.

"Civil and criminal penalties, including in certain circumstances a fine of not more than $500,000 and imprisonment of not more than five years, are provided for failure to file a report, supply information, and for filing a false or fraudulent report." (From the Privacy Act Notice on Form 90-22.1)

According to tax attorney Howard Rosen, the following penalties can be assessed:

* Failure to File Penalty – up to $250,000 and/or up to 5 years in prison for any person "willfully violating" the requirements to file. (31 CFR 5322a penalty)

* Fraud Penalty – up to $500,000 and/or up to 10 years in prison for any person "willfully violating" the requirements to file "as part of a pattern of any illegal activity involving more than $100,000 in a 12-month period." (31 CFR 5322b penalty)

* False Information Penalty – fine or up to 5 years in prison for any person providing false, misleading, fictitious, or fraudulent statements on TD F 90-22.1; or up to 8 years in prison if the false information involves domestic or foreign terrorism. (18 CFR 1001 penalty)

Law Governing the Report of Foreign Bank Accounts
The law requiring US citizens and resident aliens to report their foreign bank accounts is found at 31 CFR 103.

Section 103.24 reads as follows:

Sec. 103.24 Reports of foreign financial accounts.

(a) Each person subject to the jurisdiction of the United States (except a foreign subsidiary of a U.S. person) having a financial interest in, or signature or other authority over, a bank, securities or other financial account in a foreign country shall report such relationship to the Commissioner of the Internal Revenue for each year in which such relationship exists, and shall provide such information as shall be specified in a reporting form prescribed by the Secretary to be filed by such persons. Persons having a financial interest in 25 or more foreign financial accounts need only note that fact on the form. Such persons will be required to provide detailed information concerning each account when so requested by the Secretary or his delegate. (31 CFR 103.24)

Additional Questions
Additional questions regarding these issues should be addressed to the IRS toll free tax assistance line at (800) 829-1040.

Table of Contents
TD Form 90-22.1 Essentials (page 1)
TD Form 90-22.1 Laws, Requirements, and Penalties (page 2)



To: Claude Cormier who wrote (35746)8/15/2010 2:22:44 PM
From: E. Charters2 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 233807
 
Goldmoney is simply scrip money on a one to one ratio. When they figure out (as the boys who built Fort Knocks already did) that all they need to hold is one dollar in gold for every 20 in scrip they issue, Goldmoney will become the same as moneymoney, only without the ability to charge and interest rate.

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