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Politics : A US National Health Care System? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (16500)	4/9/2010 1:25:46 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 42652

On the hospital deaths chart you don't present the numbers either. You don't compare to other countries, you just provide our number. Present a full picture, not no foreign data, or cherry picked foreign data, and you could be said to have presented the numbers. You have not done so. The problem is you don't present any numbers or data......just parsing of words .... You need arguments, which use words, to determine if the numbers are meaningful, and to present them in the proper context. Want a number with out context or argument? Fine - 6. Are you happy now. You have a number, and after all words aren't important compared to numbers right? We don't need context or logic, just numbers... How many ways can you count a body? You can count deaths from hospitals in many ways. Sure a body is a body, and at least in the richer and better government countries probably gets counted in some way. But the total number of dead bodies that are ever found in hospitals is far greater than the numbers reported as deaths from hospital mistakes. For many of the bodies that aren't counted that way, its probably because a hospital mistake was not the reason for their death, but that isn't true in every case for any country. So the method for determining if a particular body will be a death caused by a hospital mistake or not is a very relevant issue if your comparing hospital deaths by countries (of course its hard to even start doing that since not only have you not presented the methodology for the numbers you haven't even posted the numbers).