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To: anializer who wrote (37315)4/9/2010 9:16:29 AM
From: Walter Bagehot  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 78717
 
anializer - you have to admit the irony of talking about speculative investment on a value investing thread...!

Needless to say, I can't disagree with spekulatius - if there are hairs in the reporting, how can you trust management to have been upfront in 2009?

Graham / Buffett - protect yourself on the downside so you don't have to hope for the upside. Too much hope, speculation and future projections to label shipping investments as value investments.



To: anializer who wrote (37315)4/9/2010 10:27:02 AM
From: Spekulatius  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 78717
 
re FREE - have they filed 20-F form for Y2009. if so, i have missed it. I only see a form about the press release regarding Y2009 earnings but no 20-F. My point is that the press release of Y2008 FY earnings omitted some essential information, the 20-F for Y2009 may reveal more unpleasant information as well.

FREE essentially operates with a 1:1 debt/equity - so if the book is overstated by 20%, the equity book value falls by 40%.