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Politics : A US National Health Care System? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: RetiredNow who wrote (16579)4/10/2010 9:44:24 AM
From: Lane31 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 42652
 
I'd want to know more about how his father died. I'd want to know what health care he got and didn't get and why. We don't know that he was "refused help." I don't know anything about ulcers but I have trouble believing that one bad enough to rupture would have been denied treatment solely on the basis of ability to pay. He got surgery, after all. It's too simplistic to conclude that the guy died because he was poor. Maybe he did, but Rock didn't give us enough information to determine that. It may be the case but it's also an easy claim out of ideology or personal loss.

Exactly why is it that Americans refuse to help their fellow citizens?

I don't think that's the case. I really don't. Sure, there are sociopaths about, who, by definition, don't empathize. But most care at least as much about suffering Americans as they do about suffering Africans. I question the judgment you're making.

We Americans do provide for those who are helpless. We don't necessarily want to bring them up to our standard of living. We don't necessarily want to help those who could but don't help themselves. We may not go out of our way to find those who need help but rather expect them to ask for it. And we may think it best to offer charity rather than entitlements. But that's not the same as refusing to help.



To: RetiredNow who wrote (16579)4/11/2010 10:22:15 AM
From: TimF  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 42652
 
Christian values are to give from your own wealth, not to take from others and use that money in your "giving". Christ != Marx.

I don't have the data at hand but I believe that Republicans tend to contribute more to charity.



To: RetiredNow who wrote (16579)4/11/2010 11:04:29 AM
From: gg cox  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 42652
 
Liberals, watch Bill Maher! <<gg>> click the Sarah Silverman video...liberal adults only, no conservative Repubduds allowed!

billmaher.com



To: RetiredNow who wrote (16579)4/11/2010 6:53:26 PM
From: Brumar89  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 42652
 
45M are eligible for medicaid (thats the bottom 15%). Why do you guys lie about medicaid not existing? All of your arguments are based on lies.

the lack of health care the bottom 10% in this country receive.

Is medicaid crappy? Maybe but its the govt provided health care you guys want for everyone isn't it?



To: RetiredNow who wrote (16579)4/12/2010 9:53:31 PM
From: Peter Dierks2 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 42652
 
You know, Lane, one of the things that I think Americans are missing in this debate over Health Care is the massive discrepancy between the health care provided to Americans with money versus the lack of health care the bottom 10% in this country receive.

Please explain how subjecting everyone to the the level currently "enjoyed" by the least cared for is a good thing.