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To: epicure who wrote (136372)4/10/2010 7:52:35 PM
From: Wharf Rat  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 542941
 
Russia cleverly waited for 2 days after we dropped the first bomb B4 declaring war on Japan.

"making entreaties to the Soviet Union to mediate peace on terms favorable to the Japanese."

Our stated terms were unconditional surrender. It seems Pearl Harbor was never forgotten, nor was the Bataan Death March; nor should they have been.

Document 28: Combined Chiefs of Staff, “Estimate of the Enemy Situation (as of 6 July 1945, C.C.S 643/3, July 8, 1945, Secret (Appendices Not Included)
Source: RG 218, Central Decimal Files, 1943-1945, CCS 381 (6-4-45), Sec. 2 Pt. 5

This review of Japanese capabilities and intentions portrays an economy and society under “tremendous strain”; nevertheless, “the ground component of the Japanese armed forces remains Japan’s greatest military asset.” Alperovitz sees statements in this estimate about the impact of Soviet entry into the war and the possibility of a conditional surrender involving survival of the emperor as an institution as more evidence that the policymakers saw alternatives to nuclear weapons use. By contrast, Richard Frank takes note of the estimate’s depiction of the Japanese army’s terms for peace: “for surrender to be acceptable to the Japanese army it would be necessary for the military leaders to believe that it would not entail discrediting the warrior tradition and that it would permit the ultimate resurgence of a military in Japan.” That, Frank argues, would have been “unacceptable to any Allied policy maker”.[21]
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To: epicure who wrote (136372)4/11/2010 12:36:38 AM
From: Bread Upon The Water  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 542941
 
One has to take in to account the feelings in a country that had been at war for 3 and 1/2 years and had suffered over 200,000 KIA's and probably twice as many WIA's and furthermore had been attacked first by the country that was the recipient of nuclear options.

We were not long on patience at the time.