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To: Bread Upon The Water who wrote (136499)	4/12/2010 12:03:50 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542946

We were less "diversified" in terms of the "face" and "voice" of "society". We were three Americas- white (which got all the face time, and had all the jobs- and which was also mostly male), black and other minorities. It's no wonder you'd look back and think America was less diverse- anyone not in the white male minority (and white males were a minority if you add white women and all other minorities together) had very little power and thus no voice. If you surveyed all white males in this country today you'd probably think America wasn't all that diverse- though white males are more diverse than they used to be- but still, you get my point I hope.

To: Bread Upon The Water who wrote (136499)	4/12/2010 1:16:35 PM
From: JohnM	Respond to of 542946

Additionally, it is my information and belief that as 130 million people nation (I think) in the early 40's we were less diversified then we are today and more united in our collective beliefs---prejudiced as they may have been. In short, the culture was much different than today and, hence, much harder for people who didn't experience to understand it. Well, I was certainly there and experienced it, though not as an adult. I've typed my misgivings about this formulation so it makes sense for us to agree to disagree on this one. But I can't resist one more point. It's not often remarked that in the years just after the end of WWII, a great many employed women were kicked out of the labor force to make room for returning vets. They, the women, were quite bitter. The second source of bitterness were returning black veterans who could not get employment at all. I will grant you the argument that the hegemony of a kind of Norman Rockwell like fantasy was more powerful than today. And it's a kind of romanticized, even fantasized nostalgia for it that lies behind some of the tea party nonsense.