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To: Smiling Bob who wrote (243918)	4/13/2010 7:37:35 AM
From: Jet.Screamer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

Actually it is very easy to fire someone, all you need is three written warnings and then you can fire them.

To: Smiling Bob who wrote (243918)	4/13/2010 8:11:17 AM
From: Think4Yourself	Respond to of 306849

Most government bureaucrats just want to build their little empires because they don't have to worry about silly things like making a profit, or keeping their customers happy.

To: Smiling Bob who wrote (243918)	4/15/2010 2:23:13 PM
From: Smiling Bob	Respond to of 306849

Thread timely ----------- NYC to stop paying teachers to do nothing AP By KAREN MATTHEWS, Associated Press Writer Karen Matthews, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 38 mins ago NEW YORK – Hundreds of New York City teachers who are paid full salaries to do nothing while they await disciplinary hearings will be released from the city's "rubber rooms" this fall, officials announced Thursday. Mayor Michael Bloomberg and the teachers' union announced a deal to reassign most of the teachers to administrative or nonclassroom work while their cases are pending. About 650 educators, more than 500 of them teachers, are in the teacher-reassignment centers, costing the city tens of millions of dollars a year, including $30 million in salaries, officials said. The teachers generally spend months or even years in the so-called rubber rooms playing Scrabble, reading or surfing the Internet while still collecting full salaries of $70,000 a year or more. The nickname refers to the padded cells of asylums, and teachers have said the name is fitting, since some of the inhabitants can become unstable. The city has blamed union rules that make it difficult to fire teachers, but some teachers assigned to rubber rooms say they have been singled out because they blew the whistle on a principal who was fudging test scores. "The rubber rooms were the result of a broken and protracted teacher-discipline process," Schools Chancellor Joel Klein said Thursday. "This deal goes a long way in improving the way the union and the department deal with teachers accused of and charged with wrongdoings." Orlando Ramos, who spent seven months in a rubber room in 2004-05, said he was ecstatic to hear they would be closing. "We want to coach those that are not prepared for this profession to move on. However, we also want justice for those who have been accused of wrongdoing," Ramos said. "The rubber room has been the wrong answer for so long." Ramos, who is now a middle school principal in San Jose, was an assistant principal in East Harlem when he was accused of lying at a hearing on whether to suspend a student. Ramos denied the allegation but quit before his case was resolved and moved to California. David Suker, a teacher who is currently assigned to a rubber room in Brooklyn, said educators there were waiting Thursday to hear details about how the system would be dismantled. "It's just another typical day in terms of powerlessness," Suker said. Instead of going to rubber rooms, most teachers will perform administrative work in department offices or nonclassroom work in their schools, according to the agreement. The deal expands the list of charges for which school officials can suspend teachers without pay to include violent felony crimes. Officials also agreed to increase the number of arbitrators who hear teachers' cases from 23 to 39, and said they hope to catch up with backlogged cases by the end of the year. ___ Associated Press writer Sara Kugler contributed to this story.