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To: marcher who wrote (244040)	4/13/2010 8:30:32 PM
From: Skeeter Bug	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

>>well, they can teach for fewer years than that and retire...but the retirement will be quite limited, as it is based on how much they contributed during those years. this has been explained before, so why the disinformation? suggestions of gravy train are ridiculous and annoying.<< i have a friend whose mother has been collecting a pension for 30+ years with full medical. at current interest rates, that's a multi million dollar deal. my friend can't believe how that can be done. the state is broke. >>during the private sector bubble, teachers didn't "get anything" to give back. while contractors, salespersons, real estate agents, construction workers, bankers, etc. made big bucks, teacher salaries lost to inflation. so what's to give back? teachers didn't get anything from the bubble.<< oh, your disinformation. first, real wages for everyone stayed basically flat. factor in unemployment and the private sector has been killed. the public sector? CA has ADDED jobs since the beginning of this depression - and education is its number one expense. cost of living increase? pay increases? yes, many teachers got them - so don't act like they didn't. again, the big fish are the bankers. the teacher contracts might be a problem, but they are a small problem compared banker thieves running government. it is moot point, imho, to talk about state worker pensions as the bankers will almost assuredly steal them and leave everyone penniless. we need to band together and fight off the bankers, first and foremost. swarmusa.com is peaceful effort to do this.