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To: marcher who wrote (244081)	4/14/2010 12:51:08 AM
From: Skeeter Bug	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

>>my comment was legit--teacher salaries lost to inflation. i did not say there were no pay increases--that's your misinterpretation. my suggestion was that compensation (including increases) did not cover the rate of inflation.<< most folks lost to inflation. what is your source that CA teachers lost to inflation - for both teacher pay and inflation. >>and, yes, as i've previously mentioned, wages for the middle class have been transferred to the wealthy (saez as reference).<< totally agree - we are all being looted. the education system is CA has been looting tax payers, too, but my guess is much of the money is concentrated above the teacher level. even the teacher benefits are at risk now that the bankers want their pensions to enrich themselves. >>but the popular point of reference is bubble theft and pay-back. i agree that those who profited from the bubble should pay-back the excesses: sell the extras--real estate, car toy, boat toy, plasmatv, etc. the great majority of these excesses were private sector and related to the jobs i mentioned.<< that's impossible. i'd be happy with the criminals being prosecuted. as it stands, they are getting billions in bonuses and drag president barry soetoro around by the nose. >>these serial bubbles are private sector bubbles, not public sector. thomas frank shows that the bubbles conincide with the intentional wrecking of the public sector. in this regard, private sector bubbles suck from the public sector.<< the uber rich and connected are looting everyone else. the idea i, as a private citizen, looted police who pull in $100k or more and have $100k pensions is, frankly, insulting. >>the vilification of public employees is a persuasion tactic, a red herring distraction to divert attention from serious economic problems--the private sector blew-up...itself.<< i agree. and your approach is the mirror image. the truth is the criminal financial cartel needs to be arrested and prosecuted. at the very least they need to get booted out of government. that's why i'm always pumping up... swarmusa.com. that is their mission. >>i doubt that the california public sector has added jobs, though galbraith says full-funding of the public sector is part of the solution to our economic crisis. rather than full-funding, newspapers report education cut-backs and increased class sizes (fewer teachers). so, who reported increases in jobs?<< los angeles is growing... latimes.com new speaker doles out $65k raise to assistant... sacbee.com i couldn't find the link to CA increasing its payroll, but i heard it on kfi radio and it was by just over 1000 workers.

To: marcher who wrote (244081)	4/14/2010 1:07:39 AM
From: ajtj99	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

Until the private sector and public sector are in parity, there will be issues. The people who cut the grass at the public parks get paid over twice and often times 4-times the private sector compensation for similar work, for example. That's indefensible.

To: marcher who wrote (244081)	4/14/2010 1:12:03 AM
From: ajtj99	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

Oh, FWIW, my wife reminded me tonight our non-union charter school teachers often e-mail responses to us on weekends, and even on Friday nights.

To: marcher who wrote (244081)	4/14/2010 11:59:25 AM
From: ajtj99	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 306849

O/T Another e-mail this morning from our son AJ's teacher at 7:28AM, over half an hour before the start of school regarding a math short-cut lesson that was missed due to an illness (responding to an e-mail sent last night at 10:48PM): I'm glad he is feeling better about this and verbalized this to you. Please don't hesitate to send him down anytime after school -- I'm more than willing to help :) and also email me again if the frustration starts up. I'm hoping the lightbulbs will click on today when we do this new shortcut :) This is pretty typical for teachers at our charter school.