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To: LindyBill who wrote (359504)	4/14/2010 7:49:28 PM
From: mph	1 Recommendation Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 793717

So if money is an important reward, why not choose a career that provides more of it? I don't get the whining.......There are trade-offs for all choices in life.

To: LindyBill who wrote (359504)	4/14/2010 10:02:55 PM
From: Elroy	1 Recommendation Respond to of 793717

Academics outside business and the sciences often labor,* for many long years in college and graduate school in order to obtain a doctorate.* Labor? Getting a doctorate involves lots of studying and teaching, both enjoyable rewarding activities. I wouldn't call them "labor". Teaching, on the college level or any other level, shouldn't pay well because it is rewarding and enjoyable work. Plenty of people will do it whether you pay them well or not. Furthermore, teaching may be challenging in the first couple of years, but once you've got your lesson plan built and routines established, it is, like most routine work, relatively easy. So a person who has been a teacher for 5 years in the same subject is engaged in rewarding, enjoyable and relatively easy (for them) work. Why should they get paid a lot?

To: LindyBill who wrote (359504)	4/15/2010 3:52:26 AM
From: KLP	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793717

Dr. Thomas C. Reeves certainly does complain a lot...and from the looks of what I find in the search engines, he has been doing it for many years. If he wanted to make more money, why didn't he become educated in a field where more money was to be made? I note he has written many books, nearly all of them from a Leftwing POV. Did he ever consider that he has cut off 50% of his market by writing exclusively from that POV? Nahhhh...probably didn't occur to him. Found this website, that gives overall salaries for nearly all states and what Full Professors, Associate Professors, etc make. And those salaries don't count the benefits the people receive. chronicle.com

To: LindyBill who wrote (359504)	4/15/2010 9:53:12 AM
From: alanrs	2 Recommendations Respond to of 793717

From the comments section of that article by the Reeves weeny, "What do Professors Want?" Boy, that article really got under my skin. Probably why Bill posted it. Trouble maker. ARS "We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power. Not wealth or luxury or long life or happiness: only power, pure power. ... There will be no curiosity, no enjoyment of the process of life. All competing pleasures will be destroyed. But always... always there will be the intoxication of power, constantly increasing and constantly growing subtler. Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless." Well, that's from Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four, but most professors are similar... were never the same after they'd had their butt kicked and lunch money taken in grade school, why they like appeasement and totalitarianism. And another one, although most comments are sympathetic to this jackass. "Professors are more confident than most that they have the truth and...would rule with intelligence, justice, and compassion." In a democratic republic politicians are supposed to govern, not rule. Was that a Freudian slip or a intentional ironic jab? Many Americans are justifiably suspicious of an academia that seems to be populated with people that despise us and want to rule over us as left-wing philosopher-kings. "...The trouble is that few Americans...will vote for intellectuals." The trouble is that, as Thomas Sowell commented, in many intellectual fields the criteria for success center on being interesting and original, not right. After a century of intellectuals' infatuations with foolish economic theories and evil political movements, Americans are fully justified in not trusting intellectuals. When long-vilified historian Robert Conquest's publisher asked him to suggest a new title for a revised edition of "The Great Terror", he suggested "I Told You So, You F*cking Fools". Having seen life both inside and outside academia, I am fully in agreement with Buckley's famous quip that he would rather be governed by the first hundred names in the phone book than by the combined faculties of Harvard and MIT.