To: Maurice Winn who wrote (9669 ) 4/19/2010 11:19:37 AM From: TimF Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 15994 The point is property rights. That's the thing to keep in sight. Why? Not giving newly born Americans citizenship isn't a protection of property rights. When people have two children, those two inherit the value produced by their two parents. If people have four children, they cannot each inherit the same value as their parents had. Again why? A country would be better run because the incentives would be right to protect values of property and to increase them, and to not simply go on producing hordes of children. In many ways, in many places, producing more children is a plus for society not a minus. Said offspring could then decide to buy their own citizenships by taking out a mortgage and working hard to pay it off. Who would they pay it to? If its the government, you've basically created a new tax that falls on the younger children of medium to large families. If its doles out to the current citizens, like the first two children or a married couple or (considering out of wedlock children and divorce and remarriage) perhaps I should say rather the first (or perhaps one child picked by) each person with children (or perhaps each person, could childless people give a right to citizenship to someone else's child? ). So effectively you've created a privileged class that can live off of other people. The point is assigning individual ownership to property No it isn't. Not giving new American's citizenship isn't protecting property rights, its creating privileged and less privileged classes, and taking a lot of property from those in the later if they want to move up to the former.