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To: Snowshoe who wrote (73272)	4/20/2010 12:21:48 PM
From: Snowshoe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

BFBS NEWS REPORT-250th Battle of Minden (August 1st, 1759) youtube.com Britain gangs up with Hanover to whip the French. Probably the most important battle I'd never heard of... Battle of Minden en.wikipedia.org In Britain the result at Minden was widely celebrated and was seen as part of Britain's Annus Mirabilis of 1759 also known as the "Year of Victories", although there was some criticism of Ferdinand for not following up his victory more aggressively. When George II learned of the victory, he awarded Ferdinand £20,000 and the Order of the Garter.[9] Minden further boosted British support for the war on the continent - and the following year a "glorious reinforcement" was sent, swelling the size of the British contingent in Ferdinand's army.[10] In France the reaction to the result was severe. The Duc de Choiseul, the French Chief Minister, wrote "I blush when I speak of our army. I simply cannot get it into my head, much less into my heart, that a pack of Hanoverians could defeat the army of the King".

To: Snowshoe who wrote (73272)	4/20/2010 5:49:56 PM
From: Maurice Winn	1 Recommendation Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

Snow, that's not really how the Anglos took over so much. While having the best military power helped, what really mattered was the economic and sociological impetus which also enabled that military success. Inventing technology and industrial process was crucial. Not to mention common law and other abstract values such as money, banking, Enlightenment values, capitalism, science, maths and literacy. When Anglos showed up in NZ, the cannibals were stone age and wood age people with no writing. Of course it was easy to show the local barbarians a better life and of course the local yokels took to it like a duck to water. Nobody wants to live in a ponga hut with southerlies whipping the wind through a few feathers woven into a sort of cloak while neighbouring tribes plan attacks intended to turn the poor bloke into dinner. Unfortunately, the extension of democracy has enabled the dominance of looting opm as the dominant theme of democracy. It's not that democracy was all that great when voting was restricted to land owners because they would vote that slavery was a jolly good idea and for other self-serving ethical horrors. "Oh what a lovely war that would be. Let's conscript all those annoying young men and send them to the front." Mqurice