To: Wharf Rat who wrote (10325 ) 4/23/2010 12:49:10 AM From: Wharf Rat Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 24213 One of the comments... I've been too busy the last couple of days to jump in on some of the threads. Now I find myself frustrated by so many posts by people that don't know jack about living off grid (not you Paul, just a good place to jump in). For years now I've listened as folks explain to other folks all of the "issues" that make off grid living not viable. I recently listened to a guy at a political rally trash renewables, especially PV, to the point where he said that "anyone that says they can live off grid without spending hundreds of thousands of dollars is a liar. Even then, it doesn't work". Eventually the candidate (a Republican, actually) piped up and told the guy "the fella standing behind you has been living off grid for years. I've been to his house. It's pretty much like yours, Pete." When he looked at me, I couldn't hold back: "You're an ass, Pete. You should shut up." My refrigerator is an 8 year old Whirlpool energy star, 19 cu/ft. Our dishwasher is a Kenmore. Washer and dryer: Maytag. Range is Kenmore (propane/electric). 52" Samsung (POS) TV. Microwave, toaster, electric can opener, all here. Hot water: solar with propane backup. One thing my house has that Pete's likely doesn't is lots of switches that actually get used and actually turn things OFF. I (and others) have posted that living with intermitancy, adapting some, powering down some when required isn't the end of the world. It's not even a big deal. I grow weary......... /rant Oh, sorry! I forgot to mention the small chest freezer, the ceiling fans, the electric iron, the dog dryer, the.......... Ghung on April 22, 2010 - 5:41pm