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To: ChinuSFO who wrote (72880)4/23/2010 10:02:28 PM
From: Jim McMannis  Respond to of 149317
 
Is this what you are talking about?

Need to make state and local police enforce the laws and no sanctuary cities?

Take the lead from Arizona?

(BTW, Phoenix is a sanctuary city.)

Arizona governor signs toughest immigration law
news.yahoo.com

PHOENIX (Reuters) – Arizona Governor Jan Brewer on Friday signed into effect the toughest immigration law in the United States, which President Barack Obama singled out as a "misguided" effort that showed the need for national reform.

Police in the border state with Mexico will now be required to determine if people are in the country illegally if there is "reasonable suspicion" that is the case -- which critics charge will open the door to racial profiling.

Immigration is a bitterly contested issue in the United States, where some 10.8 million illegal immigrants live and work in the shadows. But until recently it has been eclipsed at the national level by other issues such as healthcare and financial reform, angering many Latino supporters of Obama.

Several thousand people gathered outside the state capitol in Phoenix ahead of the governor's announcement, mostly opponents carrying signs saying "We Are Human" and "Enough is Enough."



To: ChinuSFO who wrote (72880)4/24/2010 4:35:23 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 149317
 
The current laws do not have any teeth. We have illegals who are not paying taxes but continue to draw on our public schools and health care. It is time that we come up with laws that have teeth, have a system like a national ID card and have heavy fines for those caught to be illegals. We also need to take punitive action of US citizens who knowingly hire illegals. And then we have church groups who also encourage illegals.

We need comprehensive immigration reforms.


I agree.....but what typically gets included into this package is a pathway to citizenship. And that's something I can't support.



To: ChinuSFO who wrote (72880)4/25/2010 2:43:36 PM
From: Jim McMannis  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 149317
 
ChinuSFO, Have you already flip flopped on this?

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You posted this....
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"To: tejek who wrote (72877) 4/23/2010 8:05:45 PM
From: ChinuSFO Read Replies (3) of 72937

The current laws do not have any teeth. We have illegals who are not paying taxes but continue to draw on our public schools and health care. It is time that we come up with laws that have teeth, have a system like a national ID card and have heavy fines for those caught to be illegals. We also need to take punitive action of US citizens who knowingly hire illegals. And then we have church groups who also encourage illegals.
We need comprehensive immigration reforms."