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To: GROUND ZERO™ who wrote (3006)4/27/2010 7:53:45 PM
From: not_prudent2 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 222226
 
Yoo forget their system was gamed, by the investment banks, even worse, CDS's (the little gems that insured all the crap being pumped out were pretty much invented by the same banks that gamed Moody's and S&P. Pretty much the number 1 seller of CDS's - AIG. You and I and every American now own them.

These people took a hard look at the methodologies used by Moody's and S&P to rate a mortgage. When they found the weak links in their systems, it was easy to submit a bundle of mortgages and have come back triple A. Moody's and S&P were/are run by people who thought they're system worked like a champ. Their systems worked well for years and years. They never suspected that they would be dealing with crooks. IMO there's a big difference between stupid management and guilty management. As for those guys submitting those packages to be rated - they knew. Only their lawyers might believe they didn't.



To: GROUND ZERO™ who wrote (3006)4/28/2010 12:09:45 AM
From: Follies1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 222226
 
IMHO the entire GS mess is built on hindsight delusion. It seems so obvious now what shitty paper looks like but not everyone knew that at the time. How many times before did someone think they were selling shitty paper only to be totally wrong?