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To: miraje who wrote (361680)4/28/2010 12:18:08 PM
From: miraje2 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793917
 
Whoa, Nellie!! Will the last business and productive citizen leaving CA please turn out the lights? (If greenie induced energy shortages haven't already accomplished that..)

examiner.com

California is going to have a VAT

Or at least, California might be the first US state to have a VAT. This would be another step on the road to California becoming like Europe, where all of the nations do indeed have a VAT.

The questions is, whether the plans to reform the California taxation system get passed or not. The proposal is that:

To offset the income tax reduction, the commission would create a wide-ranging business tax that would encompass virtually every corner of California capitalism, including the service sector -- lawyers, engineers, business consultants -- that currently are not taxed. Such businesses are viewed as growth industries.

After a five-year transition period, the new business tax is expected to be about 4% on net receipts -- gross receipts minus the cost of purchases from other businesses. The current corporation tax would be eliminated the first year.


That is the very essence of a value added tax or VAT. Every business pays out the tax on their inputs, every business charges the tax on their outputs. Then at some agreed point (in Europe it can be from every three months to every month, depending upon the country and the size of the business) a calcuation is made of how much has been paid out and how much collected and then the net sum is sent to the taxman.

The effect is (after a few cashflow issues have been worked out) that the business is collecting tax on the value added by the business itself. It is of course the consumers who are actually paying the tax.

Now a VAT is not a bad taxation system: it's a tax on consumption which is less likely to be changed by taxation than either labor or capital investment is. So, given that we do need to raise money to pay for government we ought to raise it in the least damaging way possible.

However, there is a downside to a VAT. Because the tax is paid in increments, little parts of it all through the supply chain, it is much more difficult to avoid than is a sales tax. Taxes which are much more difficult to avoid tend to go a lot higher in their rates than ones that can be avoided.

Now of course, the politicians are setting this at 4% of net receipts now, but who ever heard of a politician who doesn't want to have more of your money to spend?

If I might take this opportunity to scare you out of your Birkenstocks? The minimum (yes, minimum) rate for most goods in Europe is 15%. And in places like Sweden it's 25% on almost everything, including food.

A VAT is also highly regressive: it takes a larger portion of the incomes of the poor than it does of the incomes of the rich because the poor spend more of their money while the rich save more.

It's going to be interesting to see what actually happens....



To: miraje who wrote (361680)4/28/2010 4:00:10 PM
From: MrLucky  Respond to of 793917
 
Looks like the Lone Star State will emulate Arizona

Even Utah spoke about it last night. They are getting spill over from CA,NV and AZ.



To: miraje who wrote (361680)4/28/2010 4:24:22 PM
From: Brumar891 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793917
 
Harris County has started a policy in late 2008 that sounds similar to what AZ plans to do. The city of Houston remains politically correct though. The sheriffs department patrols in unincorporated areas and runs the county jail:

Houston, We Have a Problem
By Jessica Vaughan, November 19, 2008

This week the Houston Chronicle published an extensive three-part series reporting on the disturbing number (thousands) of illegal aliens who commit crimes and are processed through the Harris County Sheriff’s Office, but manage to avoid removal and often remain in the community to progress in their criminal career. The series does a service by pointing out the issues involved in dealing with the hundreds of thousands of criminal aliens living in this country. But it gives the misleading impression that local law enforcement agencies are helpless, with no recourse but to sit and wait for ICE to take all these bad people off their hands.

The lead sentence of the first article reads:

Federal immigration officials allowed scores of violent criminals . . . to walk away from Harris County Jail despite the inmates’ admission to local authorities that they were in the country illegally….

The next paragraph says:

ICE officials didn’t file the paperwork to detain roughly 75% of the more than 3,500 inmates who told jailers during the booking process that they were in the U.S. illegally.

Now, everyone knows that ICE doesn’t have the manpower or money to do the job it would like to do and remove a larger share of the 11.5 million illegal aliens, including 300-450,000 criminal aliens. And I hear lots of complaints from sheriffs and police chiefs about ICE’s responsiveness in some local areas (“Tell me what I have to do to get them to come for the felons at least,” one mid-western state sheriff pleaded with me at a recent seminar).

But the report does not explore sufficiently how ICE is supposed to find out about all these criminal aliens in the first place, so that it can launch the removal process (if it chooses). Instead it quotes several local law enforcement officers and judges who lamely complain they have no way of determining an offender’s status or, more appallingly, state that it’s not their concern.

Until the Harris County Sheriff’s Office joined ICE’s 287(g) program (a do-it-yourself deportation program – see the ICE website and this Center backgrounder) local LEAs were making little effort even to meet ICE halfway on this problem. Two years ago, after a previously deported felon killed a Houston police officer, the Sheriff’s Office did start asking inmates about their status. They kept the information in a database and shared it with ICE.
But the officers were not trained in how to determine immigration status. It appears that the accuracy of those records is questionable.

[ The city of Houston isn't on board with this even though its one of their officers that was killed by an illegal alien a couple years ago. ]

ICE did remove 900 of the 3,500 self-described illegal aliens in the database; but over the same period ICE also put detainers on another 2,500 aliens it found on its own, who were not in the database. One problem is that some illegal aliens will not volunteer that they are illegal, or may give an alias. (Note: basic training for LEOs on immigration law and status determination is available in the private sector.)

Complicating matters for ICE, the city of Houston, the largest jurisdiction in the county, is doing about as much as it can to avoid turning over illegal aliens. It only reports to ICE only those illegal aliens already with warrants out for them, obviously a small share of the illegals they encounter. It accepts the matricula consular as identification (even though the state’s homeland security director, Steve McCraw, was one of the more forceful and credible opponents of such a policy when he was a senior FBI official). Sanctuary policies make it difficult to fight transnational crime effectively, as was pointed out in our recent study of immigrant gangs.

One of the Chronicle stories focused on the probation policies of the Harris County. Incredibly, many suspected illegal aliens who had committed serious crimes (such as sexual assault on an 11-year-old) were being offered probation instead of time in jail. The cop-killer mentioned above was in this category. Probation officials quoted in the article lamented that they had no way to determine status of offenders, but would provide ICE with a list of those people who admitted to being illegal “whenever ICE requests it.” Now that’s a pro-active policy if I ever heard one. I guess ICE isn’t listed in the phone book in Texas (to be fair, I have heard from P&P officers in other states that some local ICE offices sometimes seem uninterested in removing parolees, but there’s still the Law Enforcement Support Center if local ICE doesn't come, which is staffed 24/7 with ICE agents who can help with those questions). According to a survey of Texas probation departments reported in the article, although 93% of the departments reported having illegal alien probationers, only 18.5% had policies to report them to ICE, and only 18% said they had a formal relationship with ICE.

The important point is that there is no excuse for this kind of attitude anymore. There are a number of options available for Harris County, and every state or local law enforcement agency, to increase the number of criminal aliens who are removed from their community. There are plenty of examples of how these steps have contributed greatly to public safety in a number of jurisdictions around the country (check out Prince William County, Virginia; Maricopa County, Arizona; Collier County, Florida; Cobb County, Georgia; Mecklenburg County, North Carolina; and the whole state of Rhode Island, just for starters).

As it turns out, Harris County had already started some of these months ago, so it’s not clear why the Chronicle bothered to run the story at this point, since things have already changed. The county has been piloting one of ICE’s most promising new programs, which automates the status checking process at the jails, putting them at the cutting edge of initiatives to deal with criminal aliens. It’s called the Interoperability Project. More can be done, of course, starting with a no-bail-for-illegals policy, using the LESC, and a basic training program, so everyone in local law enforcement – cops, sheriffs, judges, prosecutors, P&P, etc. -- can learn how to use the tools ICE makes available. And if ICE isn’t able to help fast enough or often enough, there is always 287(g).

cis.org

HOUSTON - Nine sheriff deputies from Harris County have completed a rigorous four-week training program Friday, which authorizes them to enforce federal immigration law under U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement's (ICE) "287(g) program."
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rightsidenews.com

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Harris County Sheriff's Office first of several sites in the nation to receive full interoperability technology to help identify criminal aliens
Departments of Homeland Security and Justice providing more identity information to local officers about non U.S. citizen criminal arrests

HOUSTON - The Harris County Sheriff's Office became the first of several law enforcement agencies that will receive additional identity information about non U.S. citizens they arrest, through a new, automated fingerprint-based process that will help identify criminal aliens.

The Departments of Homeland Security (DHS) and Justice (DOJ) have made enhancements to their respective biometric systems-the Automated Biometric Identification System (IDENT) and the Integrated Automated Fingerprint Identification System (IAFIS)-to improve the interoperability of the two systems and enable this new information sharing process. IDENT and IAFIS interoperability is the cornerstone of Secure Communities, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement's (ICE's) comprehensive plan to identify and remove criminal aliens from local communities. In collaboration with DOJ and other DHS components, ICE plans to expand this capability to 50 additional state and local law enforcement agencies throughout the nation by next spring.

"Interoperability will create a virtual ICE presence at every local jail, allowing us to identify and ultimately remove dangerous incarcerated criminal aliens from our communities," said Julie L. Myers, Homeland Security Assistant Secretary for ICE.
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ice.gov