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Politics : President Barack Obama -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (73166)	4/29/2010 12:25:17 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Respond to of 149317

"This is well beyond his two-terms." Nixon said "We need to do something", and Carter said "We are doing something." Raygun zapped everything, for 28 years. It'll take a minimum of 20 years; Message 26378084 O is doing all the right stuff for this; only doing about 1% of what's needed, tho. He can't/won't ever be allowed to do as much as we need done. He is the manager of the largest auto fleet and real estate firm in the world, and he is doing a lot on that level that we don't see. One thing in his drill speech nobody noticed was that the feds are gonna start buying hybrids. And, in The Most Important Part of All, he'll announce an agreement between the Pentagon and the Agriculture Department to use more biofuels in military vehicles and to purchase thousands of hybrid vehicles for the federal motor pool. dailykos.com

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (73166)	4/29/2010 5:59:16 PM
From: stockman_scott	Respond to of 149317

Robert Brulle, a sociology professor at Drexel University who has long studied events that influence environmental policy, sees the potential in the Gulf for a game changer: When you look at well blowouts, they can become the biggest spills of all time. They can run on for months. The biggest one in the Gulf was the Ixtoc I in 1979. This spill ran from June 1979 to March 1980 (9 months) and released 140 million gallons of oil. By comparison, the Exxon Valdez (only!) released 10.8 million gallons. This could have an enormous political impact. That type of spill size will eventually reach recreational areas, and places where the press can easily document the adverse impacts of the spill. Unlike global climate change, oil spills make for good graphic, and visual coverage, the causal sequence is self evident, and denial is impossible. Think of week after week of oil spill coverage on the nightly news. That is what happened with the Exxon Valdez, which occurred in a remote area. This will make opening up offshore drilling very difficult. Plus it is occurring in an area that is supportive of offshore drilling. When the adverse impacts start hitting the recreation industries of the Gulf coast, the politics could get very interesting... dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (73166)	4/29/2010 11:35:12 PM
From: koan	Read Replies (6) \| Respond to of 149317

When I was coordinating the Valdez ol spill for H & SS and govs office they let me bare knuckle fist fight with Exxon. I cannot see Perry, Jindal or Haley Barbour doing that. All three are deep in bed with the oil companies and now they are going to need to join hands with the sierra club and sing cumbaya-lol. The politics of this will be facinating. I have to admit a Macabre facination with how the drill baby drill people respond-lol.