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To: patron_anejo_por_favor who wrote (246113)	4/29/2010 2:05:58 PM
From: neolib	Respond to of 306849

Taxes on J6P will not increase because the illegals leave due to reduced claims on entitlements. If businesses who hired illegals get hurt, too f'n bad, they were breaking the law anyway. Thus the fairly wide spread support of the bill. Depends on how you account for taxes. If J6P must now pay higher wages plus employment taxes to get his services that formerly were provided by under the table day labor, his taxes have in fact gone up (even if both before and after are obscured to him because a small business owner stands in between the labor and himself in both cases). I couldn't agree more that borders have uses, that the current impact on the border states is large, etc. My point is one can't have it both ways. Free trade, low minimum wages, and competitive local industry will result in pressure to either increase access to lower cost foreign labor, or the locals will need to become low cost labor, or one of the other assumptions must change. You can kick out the low cost foreign labor, but there are going to be consequences for doing so. Somewhat reminds me of a similar populist movement that swept regions of Africa in my youth. People of Indian descent were (still are actually) sprinkled all through Africa where they make up a significant portion of the small business owners, especially in retail. In the 1970's a bunch of African countries (Uganda in the lead) kicked out Indians and seized their businesses. Didn't work out so well of course, since it was not ownership that was valuable to the economy, but rather the actual talent the people provided. In our case the Mexicans don't own much, its the actual work they do that is valuable in the economy. If we kick them out, we got to work to make up for it.