To: tejek who wrote (564255 ) 5/5/2010 1:10:07 PM From: TimF 1 Recommendation Respond to of 1578706 Yes, it has everything to do with this point. Your whole attitude about taxes suggests ... My attitude has nothing to do with the point. Its a simple matter of fact that does not change whatever my attitude is. The writer suggested people where stupid or deceived because as many as 34% thought that Obama had raised taxes. That is a silly suggestion because Obama has raised taxes. You can imagine any possible attitude for me you want, but whatever one you pick, assuming your idea is true, would not change the fact that the writer you linked to and quoted is wrong. Also you opinion of my attitude about taxes is wrong as well, as are your statements arguing against the ideas you falsely think I believe. Taxes are not an necessary evil, they are a necessary evil. (Although having taxes as high as they are now isn't necessary.) "Godless" has nothing to do with it either way, nor does any general intention to make my life, or the lives of people or taxpayers in general miserable. All these numerous posts on whether taxes are going up or down are pointless. That is the point under consideration. You linked to an article that falsely stated that taxes where lower than they have been in 60 years, and that they had not been raised. Both points are false. As long as the population continues to grow and we continue to demand better and better and more and more services, taxes will go up. Population increase, in the context of static or better per person national income, suggests higher taxes in terms of dollars, not in terms of percentage of the income. If the income and production per person where static or worse than we can't afford more resources going to more government services. It isn't over the long run, so we can afford more/better government services, but we can get such services without higher taxes, since a static percentage of a growing economy gives the government more resources to work with (and not just more total, more per person, since I'm talking about per capita growth, not just gross economic growth because of an increased population). There is no need or even good reason to have higher taxes (in real dollars per person, or esp. as a percentage of the economy) because you have a larger population. In fact with real per capita growth you can have more/better government services than before with lower taxes.