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To: Broken_Clock who wrote (73541)	5/3/2010 9:08:49 PM
From: Mac Con Ulaidh	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 149317

I would visit to be somewhere so relaxing. honestly, Hawaii always has seemed way too fast paced and crowded to me. slow it down like that... where a person could breath deep and go slow... yep.

To: Broken_Clock who wrote (73541)	5/3/2010 9:14:09 PM
From: koan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 149317

Yes, fishing without oil powered boats could still catch the limit but the money would be more fairly allocated and the environment would be much more healthy. I think local produce will become more popular. Vegetable trucks would be nice to see again. We need to get back to the 60's idea of living a life more spirtually and less conspicuous consumption. We need to teach our children the zen of living with nature, like surfing a wave. Too many people are simply too interested in keeping up with the Jones's and status. Organization man. That is living life shallowly. One needs to bring Thoreau, Tolstoy, Plato, Einstein and Rachel Carson into their lives, and then teach their children-lol.

To: Broken_Clock who wrote (73541)	5/4/2010 1:12:59 AM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 149317

Your island is a great example. I don't remember whether Gail mentioned that your garbage dump is 3000 miles away. That's a few gallons of oil out the smokestack. Hawaii: Peak Oil Canary in a Coal Mine Posted by Gail the Actuary on June 22, 2008 - 9:00am Hawaii seems to come up often in the thinking of people aware of peak oil. On one hand, it seems like an ideal place to relocate after peak oil - no need to worry about heating a house; clothing is mostly for protection from the sun; and crops can be grown year around. On the other hand, it produces no fossil fuel itself, and it is at the end of the supply line for both food and fuel. Hawaii's biggest industry, tourism, is already declining, and with rising fuel costs, can only decline further. Many of you know that I was recently in Hawaii. After visiting, I thought I might post a few of my thoughts about the situation. theoildrum.com