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To: ChinuSFO who wrote (137784)	5/9/2010 11:42:03 AM
From: Wharf Rat	Respond to of 542905

"If you are not fired up to rebuild this nation, then you should expect to stand aside and let those who want to move this nation forward do their job." Amen

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (137784)	5/9/2010 11:43:00 AM
From: Dale Baker	Respond to of 542905

Can we move past such stupid and childish issues. Everyone here should move past stooping to this level of rhetoric. It goes nowhere. Thanks.

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (137784)	5/9/2010 12:11:51 PM
From: Paul Smith	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 542905

I don't recall raising birther issues - you writing that is called a straw man argument. Since you raised it, I tell you my thoughts. I think Obama was born in Hawaii and that the long/full/original (whatever it may be called) birth certificate is not made public because it perhaps has something embarrassing on it....but I think it does exist and that Obama is a US citizen. On the grades stuff, I only mentioned that because the person I was responding to often notes how "smart" Obama is relative to other leaders. In my subsequent posts, you'll see that my view is that labels like "smart" or stupid tend to be used by people that agree or disagree with a person's philosophy -- becoming POTUS is an impressive accomplishment for anybody and is not something that is achieved by a lazy or unintelligent person.