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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (565394)5/10/2010 12:50:53 PM
From: SilentZ  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1578127
 
>Brumar, here's an example of how anything touched with federal money must be "free from religion":

I'd say we need a little bit of additional detail, which wasn't provided by the writer. If the prayer was led by a public official, that's probably not OK. But if it was led by one of the seniors, then they should be able to do what they want. And if the latter is the case, you're still really just cherrypicking.

>As government grows, free exercise of religion shrinks. No wonder all the "freethinking" atheists are big government liberals.

Oh, come on. Government grew under Bush and we had a National Day of Prayer. But you love your platitudes.

-Z



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (565394)5/10/2010 1:14:13 PM
From: Brumar89  Respond to of 1578127
 
I saw that. I didn't see anything there about anyone in authority leading a chant or directing people to pray as some are going to hypothesize. It specifically says a staff member "noticed people praying" - sounds like people sitting around a table and someone saying grace voluntarily. Pretty clear it wasn't the staff doing it .... because they're the ones who reported it. I think I know what older religious people in places like GA are like and if you put a bunch of older folks around a table it sounds very likely someone will ask the person known to be most religious if they want to say grace.

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Tim Rutherford, Senior Citizens Inc. vice president, said some of his staff recently visited the center and noticed people praying shortly before lunch was served.
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"We can't scoff at their rules," he said of federal authorities. "It's a part of the operational guidelines."

Rutherford said the moment of silence was introduced to protect that funding.
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My Dad goes to a VA nursing home several times a week to have a prayer service for anyone there who wants to take part:

veterans.illinois.gov

Unconstitutional? After all, its a government facility and they're paying for the chairs people sit on, etc. Hope no one present has a cup of government water or something in front of them.

Its one of many reasons why SC appointments are important.