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To: tejek who wrote (565506)5/11/2010 1:23:29 AM
From: Tenchusatsu  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1577883
 
Ted, > How would you feel if you were stopped? I know how I would feel.

I would consider it an inconvenience.

If I didn't have documentation on me (e.g. the officer didn't think my driver's license was proof), then I'd probably be hauled away until they can verify my legal residence. That's when the law will go too far, since we live in a society where people don't feel like having to carry ID all the time. (Except when they're driving, but driving is a privilege, not a right.)

I'm not saying there are no problems with the AZ law, though. But I am saying that the race card is being played way too much. It's a play on emotion, and it divides people needlessly. Not only that, but it cheapen the whole race issue to that of a talking point.

Tenchusatsu



To: tejek who wrote (565506)5/11/2010 4:53:59 AM
From: Taro4 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1577883
 
I was stopped a year ago, I felt like sh!t. I was speeding with another guy - who got away. Cost me 260 bucks. Nobody took me in in spite of my Latino looks.

/Taro



To: tejek who wrote (565506)5/11/2010 12:21:39 PM
From: one_less  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1577883
 
"How would you feel if you were stopped? I know how I would feel."

Is that the equivalent to ... 'How would you feel if they (Iraqis) invaded us?' a totally irrelevant query wrt our operations in Iraq.

It seems like it is at the same level. But, I'll entertain the notion. No one I know and it is definitely true that I would not feel good about being stopped. There is always some fear that things could go badly. Even if you are clean and good, cops make mistakes just like every body else. So, when I am asked for identification as I'm swiping a credit card through the reader, or when stopped by security, or police for some routine check, I get a pang of dread for things that could go wrong. At these same times I am reminded that real criminals are sometimes nabbed this way and I am reminded the cops are doing their jobs, and I am glad they are. The legal system is there to afford everyone proper protection, even criminals.

Immigrants are among the most vulnerable of people where ever they are in the world. Illegal immigrants are putting them selves at extreme risks and are often victimized. 33billion annually in human trafficking and sex slavery, more orphans in the world than all the children in the USA, more slavery in the world than ever in history, 100million missing girls, 25k children die quietly of unconscionable neglect DAILY. Don't you care?



To: tejek who wrote (565506)5/11/2010 12:30:43 PM
From: Brumar892 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1577883
 
I've been stopped by police lots of times over the years and whatta you know, they asked for my license every time. Fascists.

A drivers license is pretty good proof of citizenship or legal status, I think, which is why the Democrats want to give drivers licenses to illegals.



To: tejek who wrote (565506)5/11/2010 12:36:29 PM
From: i-node1 Recommendation  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1577883
 
>> How would you feel if you were stopped? I know how I would feel.

When you're dealing with serious issues such as this, there has to be some limit beyond which "feelings" are back-burnered.

When I lived in a small town I was stopped for driving down the street to my home at 2am. (This was a town where I was well known to practically everyone and certainly to the police -- having been previously arrested for possession of marijuana at a time when it was a serious offense). My car was searched, I was placed in handcuffs in the patrol car, and eventually taken to the police station where I was released and told to "walk back to your car". I was pissed. Beyond pissed.

It wasn't racially motivated. I wasn't gay, so it couldn't have been that. You might say I was "criminally profiled". WTF does it matter?

But I got over it. So, too, will these people who have to sacrifice to accommodate a difficult situation (arguably, the police in AZ are far more justified in their actions than were the cops in this particular incident).

My incident in no way deters me from the belief that most cops are good people trying to do the best they can. The Left's free-floating hatred for cops is totally irrational. These are people who are doing a tough, dangerous job for very little pay.

Next time you suffer a PTSD-inducing crisis, call a school teacher.