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To: tejek who wrote (565628)	5/11/2010 2:26:59 PM
From: J_F_Shepard	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1577043

Jesus never spent a winter at the North Pole......:-)

To: tejek who wrote (565628)	5/11/2010 2:35:58 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1577043

"What proof do you have that there is a difference between a mythical Santa Clause and Jesus Christ? The Mythical Santa Claus is a Christmas tradition based on the life story of a historical figure who was sainted according to Catholic tradition, Saint Nickolas. The name 'Santa Clause' is some sort of phonetic spelling, not sure which culture put it that way. The historical record is available. Whether you or I accept historical records as proof is as individual as any other types of proof. If you don't accept historical records then I have no way of proving the existence of any human being to you. Some are easier to authenticate than others but it still falls back on you to believe the records or not. But if their is any proof of any 'Real' person of history, that is where it lies. Same with Jesus Christ. Much is made of miracles and I don't dispute them but I do recognize the possibility of alternative explanations. The basket that fed the multitudes for example: If you were speaking to a crowd that had left their homes in those days, you would probably be speaking to robed people who were carrying provisions under their clothing. So, if you said "look here, your beloved brothers and sisters are hungry. So I'm going to start things off with this basket of my fish and bread and I expect when it returns to me that everyone has had nourishment in the process." Would Jesus need to assume credit for the food or to simply proclaim it a work of God and evidence of a holy assemblage. I would consider that a miracle just as I would consider food appearing supernaturally out of nothing. I wasn't there, Jesus was, according to historical record ... and according to that historical record he knew more than the average bear in Jellystone park. Turning water to wine at the wedding could have been some supernatural phenomenon or maybe Mary just knew Jesus was the go to guy with influence, what kind of influence might be desputed but the historical record seems as varifiable as you can get. He had traveled and been educated while away. The record says he put mud on the blind guys eyes but it could have been some sort of herbal remedy for conjestion or something. Maybe not but just saying, that type of cure is not unthinkable. I would find television much harder to prove to someone not here to experience it at the time. Jesus never explained miracles except to give credit to God, as evidence of his designated role. Good enough for me. Halleluya.