To: Solon who wrote (5277 ) 5/19/2010 7:34:06 AM From: Brumar89 1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 69300 Solon a fictive construct: Ancient authors such as Herodotus and Plutarch are the main source of information, yet they wrote about Solon hundreds of years after his death — and this was at a time when history was by no means an academic discipline (see for example Anecdotes). Fourth century orators, such as Aeschines, tended to attribute to Solon all the laws of their own, much later times.[8] Archaeology reveals glimpses of Solon's period in the form of fragmentary inscriptions but little else. For some scholars, our 'knowledge' of Solon and his times is largely a fictive construct based on insufficient evidence .... ... today the only records we have of Solon's laws are fragmentary quotes and comments in literary sources such as those written by Plutarch himself. Moreover, the language of his laws was archaic even by the standards of the fifth century and this caused interpretational problems for ancient commentators.[46] Modern scholars doubt the reliability of these sources and our knowledge of Solon's legislation is therefore actually very limited in its details. ........ In his poems, Solon portrays Athens as being under threat from the unrestrained greed and arrogance of its citizens.[84] ..... Solon's reform of these injustices was later known and celebrated among Athenians as the Seisachtheia (shaking off of burdens).[92][93]. ......IOW Solon was the Obama of his day. thumbs.dreamstime.com .......And of course, we note Solone has picked the pedarast Solon as his namesake. Just like Ingersoll "The Magnificant", Solon "liked young men": .... According to various authors, ancient lawgivers (and therefore Solon by implication) drew up a set of laws that were intended to promote and safeguard the institution of pederasty and to control abuses against freeborn boys. In particular, the orator Aeschines cites laws excluding slaves from wrestling halls and forbidding them to enter pederastic relationships with the sons of citizens.[139] ...... Besides the alleged legislative aspect of Solon's involvement with pederasty, there were also suggestions of personal involvement. According to some ancient authors Solon had taken the future tyrant Peisistratus as his eromenos. Aristotle, writing around 330BC, attempted to refute that belief, claiming that "those are manifestly talking nonsense who pretend that Solon was the lover of Peisistratus, for their ages do not admit of it," as Solon was about thirty years older than Peisistratus.[144] Nevertheless the tradition persisted. Four centuries later Plutarch ignored Aristotle's skepticism[145] and reported anecdotes such as the following: And they say Solon loved [Peisistratus]; and that is the reason, I suppose, that when afterwards they differed about the government, their enmity never produced any hot and violent passion, they remembered their old kindnesses, and retained "Still in its embers living the strong fire" of their love and dear affection.[146] A century after Plutarch, Aelian also said that Peistratus had been Solon's eromenos. .....