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To: Jim McMannis who wrote (248715)	5/18/2010 7:39:45 PM
From: Smiling Bob	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

Shouldn't start a war unless we are prepared to go nucular.

To: Jim McMannis who wrote (248715)	5/18/2010 8:37:35 PM
From: Skeeter Bug	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

we've been doing this long enough that we ought to know how this works. wars aren't for winning, they are for oligarch profit making and applying their policies around the world - they get their way and make tons of cash doing it. throw in $100s of billions in drug running... and it is a big win... for uber bankers. it is bad for citizens who get stuck with the bill and interest for eternity - BUT THAT'S THEY WHOLE POINT! it dawned on me that the ENTIRE POINT of those $1000 government procured hammers we've all heard about WAS THE PRICE. gotta love legalized looting by the millions, billions and now trillions - if you are the looter, anyway. how do the bankers make money? 1. debt, debt, debt and more debt. they LOVE THEM SOME DEBT! what do the citizens and their government have? WMD DEBT, baby, b/c that's what the uber bankers wanted us to have. they get interest on the debt - money for nothing. TRULY! MONEY FOR NOTHING. 2. they invest all this MONEY FOR NOTHING in various businesses. think military/security industrial complex. what good is that investment if it isn't used? so what if people die... they are just "dumb, stupid animals" according to henry kissinger... portland.indymedia.org oh, you didn't know he said that? the controlled media protects him - if his "class" of people paid you $4 million to run your trap and keep you nails clean, you'd likely cover up his evil mind, too. their war machine rumbles on - and winning wars quickly isn't very profitable it's all about the money, baby! they also own lots of other businesses... like healthcare, big pharma, and some prisons, too. they even bribed some judges to put innocent kids in their juvenile facility - over $2 million. of course, the judges were charged - but not the private corporation representatives that paid out the money! noooooo! they are a special class. i could go on and on, but put the freakin' legos together. al qaeda isn't jack - it is the freakin' criminal international banking cartel that are the true terrorists and mobsters. if you know what's good for your economy, give us trillions and you don't need to know where it goes, either. give us the money or we blow up your economy. send cash with no strings attached or riots and martial law will rule the day. these criminals (and yes, the fed broke the law when it took credit parabolic to GDP - a criminal, black letter law violation that CAUSED the bubble and the resulting collapse) biggest asset is the fact the people lie down so they can walk all over us. why don't you ask yourself why in the h*ll banks are TBTF, but nations are not? these bankrupt, criminal institutions will loot america dry and kill her in order to keep their mob in power. politicians in both parties are simply mercenaries that go to the highest bidder - and NOBODY out bids the MONEY MASTERS who get paid for doing almost nothing but ripping the face off society.

To: Jim McMannis who wrote (248715)	5/18/2010 8:52:31 PM
From: sspads	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 306849

"When we don't do what it takes," That's nuts, you're saying the press paralyzed the war in Afganistan. And n Vietnam? The war in Afganistan is about drugs.

To: Jim McMannis who wrote (248715)	5/18/2010 9:46:22 PM
From: RetiredNow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

Alexander the Great couldn't win in Afghanistan and he pulled out all the stops to go as low as he had to in order to win. In the end, he had to marry the daughter of a powerful warlord so everyone could get out declaring victory. But the growth of his empire was almost ground to a halt in Afghanistan. So if he couldn't do it, and the Soviets couldn't do it, when those two would fight dirty as hell and civilians be damned, what makes us think we can do it with all of our rules of war that we impose on ourselves? No way. It's a waste of money. We should be fighting with drones, fighter jets, long range missiles, and special force assassination squads. Bring all the rest of the troops home NOW.