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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (84359)5/20/2010 11:30:52 PM
From: MJ2 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224729
 
Wrong. Chart shows the number of deportations during those Presidential years.

The chart does not claim or say that Obama deported those immigrants.

The process of sending the illegals home was started and put in place prior to Obama's usurping the Presidency.

From a Virginian who knows----mj



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (84359)5/20/2010 11:47:11 PM
From: Hope Praytochange  Respond to of 224729
 
Back then, National Guard or Reserve duty was a way to serve yet almost be sure not to be sent to Vietnam. The situation was entirely different from today’s, when reservists bear much of the burden of war. It is why many veterans are now upset with Mr. Blumenthal and not mollified by his remarks the other day that his claims to have been in Vietnam amounted to “a few misplaced words.”

It is, frankly, hard to understand how he could have uttered such words even once. I was drafted in 1968, at the height of the war, but was fortunate to end up in Germany, far from the fighting. I was a Vietnam-era soldier. But a Vietnam veteran? It never occurred to me to call myself that. Those are not misplaced words. They are a lie.

Something else about Mr. Blumenthal’s story raises an eyebrow: statements he has made about soldiers’ returning from Vietnam and sometimes being physically abused and spat on. There is scant evidence that such actions, if they occurred, were part of a pattern.

Given how broadly unpopular the Vietnam War was, it may be that “some dope here or there” engaged in such contemptible behavior, said Todd Gitlin, a Columbia University professor of journalism and sociology, who was a prominent figure on the antiwar left in those days. “But to think that this was countenanced by the antiwar movement in general, that it was widespread, is absurd,” he said.

Someday the 1960s will finally be over, just not this week, certainly not for Mr. Blumenthal. Given his present troubles, perhaps he will find resonance in other lines that appear on the glass wall downtown. They were written long ago by a Navy lieutenant, Richard W. Strandberg:

“One thing worries me — will people believe me? Will they want to hear about it, or will they want to forget the whole thing ever happened?”

E-mail: haberman@nytimes.com



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (84359)5/20/2010 11:52:51 PM
From: Hope Praytochange1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224729
 
idiot odumba does not deport his illegal aunt... she now gets
all medical and social benefits



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (84359)5/21/2010 7:40:23 AM
From: lorne3 Recommendations  Respond to of 224729
 
ken...bet you love the I'm better than you smug look?




To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (84359)5/21/2010 9:43:34 AM
From: Sedohr Nod4 Recommendations  Respond to of 224729
 
The left giving Calderon's knock on Arizona a standing ovation, pretty well moots out whatever point you are trying to make with that post.....The fact that democrats are so far out of America's mainstream is becoming clearer by the day....thankfully.