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To: longnshort who wrote (365875)	5/24/2010 2:08:49 PM
From: TimF	1 Recommendation Respond to of 793986

when I grew up the county were I live had like one murder every 5 years, now it's like 10-20 a year. Was when you grew up, pre 70s? I've already stated how crime climbed up to and through the 70s (and perhaps until the early 80s). How much has the population changed in your county? (Both in size and other demographic changes). How does it compare to New York City with eight million people and a large drop in crime (some of those MYC stats may be manipulated and the drop exaggerated, but clearly crime has gone down in the city). ------------ This is kindof interesting - "Mr. Jacobson discussed a remarkable phenomenon: Far more arrests took place than in the early 1990s, and yet the number of New Yorkers in jail or in prison has declined. Before the Giuliani era, he said, about half the people arrested for low-level offenses would get a desk-appearance ticket ordering them to go to court. The proportion now is about 10 percent. “Essentially, everyone who’s arrested in New York City, in the parlance of city criminal justice lingo, goes through ‘the system,’” Mr. Jacobson noted. “Most everyone who’s arrested spends, on average, 24 hours in some kind of lockup before they see an arraignment judge.” Even a short period in a holding cell can be enough to deter further law-breaking, he said: " cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com