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To: koan who wrote (76049)5/25/2010 9:58:53 PM
From: stockman_scott  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 149317
 
Obama is the country's CEO and leader and he must take charge of the growing crisis in the Gulf...Hold BP execs and Interior Department execs accountable...Launch aggressive criminal investigations and insure that appropriate people are fired &/or prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law...Make sure that the best cleanup options from around the world are used to help the Gulf, engage the best scientists to study the water column and the long term impact of the spill...Put a firm moratorium on ANY new drilling offshore...Talk to the country and Congress about the importance of immediately launching a Manhatten Project to get off oil - this is a national security issue that has been neglected for years...Wise leaders never let a crisis go to waste...Use this tragedy as a teachable moment and help our country start to do something meaningful to deal with Global Warming...How Obama handles this historic BP Gulf oil spill will define his presidency - it's so much more important than any war games over Afghanistan or Iraq.



To: koan who wrote (76049)5/31/2010 11:35:37 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 149317
 
koan: >>Simple logic, it seems to me, says that we should never do anything that can cause this much damage, if we cannot acceptably mitigate the damage we know sooner or later will happen.

Your simple logic ignores the fact that we need fuel. The answer doesn't have to be black or white.......drill or don't drill. Drill with more safeguards may be the better way to go.

"Are you prepared to stop using all fossil fuels...stop visiting your family in OR, never use any vehicle, only heat your house with solar, etc? Are you ready to do that?>>

koan: "That is pure hyperbole. Gas prices will just rise. I wish they would rise. And I will pay the increase.


Gas prices rising too quickly will hurt the people who can least afford it and could very well throw this country into recession. The plight of all Americans has to be taken into consideration, not just the plight and wishes of a few.

koan: " this is how you want to reduce the trade deficit." Killing our wildlife? So you are saying "drill baby drill?

Like I said, I expect we will continue drilling with better safeguards.

tejek: "And we could easily replace that oil anyway by developing coal bed methane that is much much safer.

There is no easy switching from one fuel to another and there is no safe fossil fuel."

koan: actually there is. Most engines can run on natural gas with some modification. The coal bed methane production has been so successful it has driven the price of NG down.

Imagaine how much more could be produced at double or triple the price of NG. Adn the Alaska gas pipeline could produce huge amounts with a higher price and a Manhatten project to get it down to the lowrer 48. And incentives to convert vehicles to NG.


I have no problem with NG vehicles as one more way to reduce our dependency on foreign oil. But NG has its limitations and is a non renewable renewable. Why switch from one addiction to another?