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To: one_less who wrote (76219)	5/26/2010 11:16:50 PM
From: koan	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 149317

>>Saying you would never ever go against the established authority is not a liberal idea<< First I never said that, you are making an incorrect assumption. what I said was I would never vote against a dem over a pub, for reasons already outlined. Confucius valued duty and morality. Confucius was concerned with a very deliberate effort to attain virtue, particularly by following rituals and by obedience to parents and authority figures. >>Taoist believed that people who sought virtue through outwardly duty would do so to earn the praise of men. This desire for praise would turn virtue into evil.>. koan: "Very sophisticated philosophy for its day and very liberal for its day. Liberalism is relative to the timeperiod. Same goes for Confucism. Very sophisticated thinking for its day. In fact both are sort of astounding. Asia's Plato's and Socrate's." >>A Taoist's quest for enlightment was a personal, inward process. Again, Confucius was concerned with outwardly duty and loyalty to authority figures. Taoists also distrusted political authority. Basically, they believed that power corrupts. Chuang Tzu wrote a parable in which a prince appointed him as prime minister. Chuang Tzu rejected the appointment by saying that he would rather be a "turtle dragging its tail in the mud."