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To: ChinuSFO who wrote (76617)5/29/2010 4:07:19 PM
From: tejek  Respond to of 149317
 
I don't know.....this sounds hopeless.

Illegal immigrants gravitate toward Arizona border

By Peter Slevin
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, May 29, 2010; 3:08 PM

NOGALES, ARIZ. -- Along a rugged stretch of the Mexican border here in southern Arizona, U.S. authorities captured 687 illegal immigrants in a 24-hour period last week, three times the number captured near San Diego. During the past eight months, agents have apprehended 168,000 migrants along this sector of the border.

The border crossers are so determined, and so impervious to a long-running buildup of federal agents and technology, that few here think President Obama's recent decision to dispatch 1,200 National Guard soldiers and $500 million will make much difference.

"I doubt it, frankly," said Don Severe, a vocal opponent of illegal immigration who favors stronger measures, including certain incarceration. "It sounds good, but what are they going to do? We have a very serious problem."

Arizona, home of a controversial new law that makes it a state crime to be in the country illegally, has become the leakiest portion of the nearly 2,000-mile border. The continuing flow of illegal immigrants, compounded by a rise in narcotics traffic and the slaying of an Arizona rancher, perhaps by a border crosser, has triggered a fresh fight over immigration policy, animating activities on both sides of the debate.


Thousands of opponents of the Arizona law, known as SB 1070, were expected to march through the streets of Phoenix on Saturday, demanding federal immigration reform. Meanwhile, led by Sen. John McCain and Gov. Jan Brewer, Republican politicians here are calling for stricter border security measures while waiting for the law -- broadly popular in Arizona but facing significant legal challenges -- to take effect.

The issue has polarized the community in ways that residents say are new and disturbing. "I have seen situations in families where they are fighting," said the Rev. Vili Valderrama, a priest at San Felipe de Jesus parish in heavily Hispanic Nogales. He said benefactors who support the Arizona law have vowed to withhold contributions from the Tucson Catholic Diocese because clergy publicly oppose it.

"There are not a lot of places in this community where you can have a civil dialogue," said the Rev. Randy Mayer, pastor of Good Shepherd United Church of Christ in Sahuarita, 50 miles north of Nogales. "The conversation has changed in its tone. It has become much more polarized, much more hostile. As a pastor, I can see there's much more tension in my congregation and also in the community."

Nogales is the heart of a 262-mile stretch of border defined by sharp rises, steep ravines and brutal desert heat. As border controls have been tightened elsewhere, including construction of a border fence in parts of Arizona, California, Texas and New Mexico, Mexican migrants and smugglers have gravitated to the 90,000-square-mile area known by U.S. Customs and Border Protection as the Tucson Sector.


"When you plug a hole in the wall, the water looks for another spot to flow through. Arizona is that spot," said Nogales police chief Jeff Kirkham, who reported that immigrants are "going over the wall, going through the wall or through tunnels."

Others try to make their way though the remote desert where the high fence stops. Once across the border, they face a daunting trek that can stretch 30 miles or more in heat approaching 100 degrees. Agents staff checkpoints and crisscross the area, supported by millions of dollars worth of radar, sensors, cameras, surveillance aircraft and computer technology.

Since 2006, staffing of the Tucson Sector has grown by 30 percent, to about 3,200 officers. But immigrants from across the globe keep coming over the border -- alone or in groups, sometimes guided by smugglers, sometimes neatly dressed at official crossings carrying fake papers.

On a typical day, nearly 1 million people cross from Mexico into the United States, according to U.S. government figures. Roughly 270,000 vehicles cross the Southwest border every 24 hours, along with about 57,000 truck, rail and sea containers. Sixty percent of the Mexican fruit and vegetables entering the United States comes through Nogales.


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To: ChinuSFO who wrote (76617)5/29/2010 4:26:39 PM
From: tejek  Respond to of 149317
 
Why is it not a good sign? I thought that their goal is to slow down so that they can cap it with cement. Didn't think color was that important.

I am going by the oil drum site. According to them, black means the oil is still coming out and not good; white is NG also negative, and then brown is a mix of the oil and mud which is good. It could be that maybe those colors are only significant if they are shooting the 'mud' into the well. I don't know enough about it to make a good evaluation....that's why I stopped watching.

I just read more of the comments and the people on the Oil Drum don't seem to agree on the meaning of the various colors so scratch my earlier comment.

Something interesting just happened when I looked at the video. A snake came swimming by the oil leak. It seemed very unconcerned by the leaking oil. It struck me that maybe the marine life will be not be all that affected by the spill because natural oil speepage does occur in the GOM all the time. That might be a bit of good news.

And then someone posted this:

I've been researching the Ixtoc 1 blowout. There seem to be a lot of operational parallels here for BP. They even tried something called a sombrero which failed. Here's part of what I have learned so far..

An average of ten thousand to thirty thousand barrels per day were discharged into the Gulf. In the initial stages of the spill, an estimated 30,000 barrels of oil per day were flowing from the well. In July 1979 the pumping of mud into the well reduced the flow to 20,000 barrels per day, and early in August the pumping of nearly 100,000 steel, iron, and lead balls into the well reduced the flow to 10,000 barrels per day. Mexican authorities also began drilling two relief wells into the main well to lower the pressure of the blowout and allow response personnel to cap it. Since fluid had begun to flow around the wellhead, the only realistic method of control was a relief well. Two were drilled, and the second relief well was successful.

Lets hope that BP learns from that experience and stops cutting corners to save money.