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To: T L Comiskey who wrote (80935)	6/5/2010 1:25:26 PM
From: Broken_Clock	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

Hawaii is in a year long drought. Longest drought in memory. At least a century now. Amazingly enough, our little farm has had OK rain for the past 2 months. The only area in west Hawaii to have broken the drought.

To: T L Comiskey who wrote (80935)	6/5/2010 5:55:39 PM
From: longnshort	Respond to of 89467

what bull, the measuring sites are now in concrete jungles and growing every year. Measuring sites are next to airport run ways which are plowed right after a snow storm, they were in fields in the 1800s thru the 1930-40s those sites temp will go up every year, some are placed next to AC outlet vents. wattsupwiththat.com

To: T L Comiskey who wrote (80935)	6/5/2010 5:59:59 PM
From: longnshort	Respond to of 89467

A critical cog in the machinery that drives the theory of global warming is a small white box not too far from where you live. Inside the box sits a thermometer that tracks the local temperature, which in turn becomes part of a data trail for the monitoring of climate change on Earth. But there's a problem: Nearly every single weather station the U.S. government uses to measure the country's surface temperature may be compromised. Sensors that are supposed to be in empty clearings are instead exposed to crackling electronics and other unlikely sources of heat, from exhaust pipes and trash-burning barrels to chimneys and human graves. The National Climate Data Center (NCDC) uses this massive network of sensors to determine daily highs and lows at the 1,219 weather stations in its Historical Climatology Network (HCN). The network has existed since 1892, but only in the last decade has it come under intense scrutiny to determine whether the figures it measures can be trusted. sodahead.com

To: T L Comiskey who wrote (80935)	6/5/2010 6:10:57 PM
From: longnshort	Respond to of 89467

NASA’s GIStemp program recalculates old temperatures with every new data run. Like CRU and NOAA, NASA has managed to cool off the prior warm period (like Michael mann did with the Medieval Warm Period. See below (enlarged here) how in 1980, Hansen had the 1960s 0.3C colder than the 1950s. By 1987, it was just 0.05C colder and by 2007 it had become 0.05C warmer. icecap.us sppiblog.org [ When you hear that NASA GISS declare that this year or this month is the warmest on record, don't believe them. Don't believe anything they say. In the 1980's they said the 1960's were significantly cooler than the 1950's, by 2007 the 1960's had become WARMER than the 1950's. ]