Silicon Investor (SI) -- The First Internet Community

STOCKTALK

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor. We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community. If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.

Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (570730)	6/7/2010 9:08:49 PM
From: Elmer Phud	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1577194

Ten - Have you read the law? azleg.gov When you stop someone for reasonable suspicion unrelated to immigration status and they have no drivers license and no identification whatsoever, no insurance and they can't speak english, the police then have probably cause to ask for immigration status. They can not ask for immigration status without having other unrelated probable cause. That's much tougher than the Federal Law already on the books. The Law specifically prohibits racial profiling. The Supreme Court has already ruled unanimously that it is OK to check immigration status with no probably cause whatsoever (per legal panel discussion on Fox last week), yet Arizona's law gives greater protection by requiring unrelated probable cause to stop someone in the first place. The attorney general or county attorney shall not investigate complaints that are based solely on race, color or national origin. It might be interesting to read California Law Penal Code 834B leginfo.ca.gov which requires much the same as the Arizona Law, however, California offers no such prohibition against racial profiling: 834b. (a) Every law enforcement agency in California shall fully cooperate with the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service regarding any person who is arrested if he or she is suspected of being present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws. (b) With respect to any such person who is arrested, and suspected of being present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws, every law enforcement agency shall do the following: (1) Attempt to verify the legal status of such person as a citizen of the United States, an alien lawfully admitted as a permanent resident, an alien lawfully admitted for a temporary period of time or as an alien who is present in the United States in violation of immigration laws. The verification process may include, but shall not be limited to, questioning the person regarding his or her date and place of birth, and entry into the United States, and demanding documentation to indicate his or her legal status. (2) Notify the person of his or her apparent status as an alien who is present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws and inform him or her that, apart from any criminal justice proceedings, he or she must either obtain legal status or leave the United States. (3) Notify the Attorney General of California and the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service of the apparent illegal status and provide any additional information that may be requested by any other public entity. (c) Any legislative, administrative, or other action by a city, county, or other legally authorized local governmental entity with jurisdictional boundaries, or by a law enforcement agency, to prevent or limit the cooperation required by subdivision (a) is expressly prohibited.

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (570730)	6/7/2010 9:22:58 PM
From: TopCat	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1577194

"There is no way to enforce AZ's new law without racial profiling." You're absolutely right. No different than profiling short people, tall people, fat people, or skinny people. Going to have to decide what is more important.....Profiling or illegal immigration. If a tall, skinny guy robs a bank....you can bet that a lot of tall, skinny guys are going to be stopped and checked. That's profiling.....Tough.

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (570730)	6/7/2010 9:26:05 PM
From: Broken_Clock	Respond to of 1577194

ten Just what is wrong with racial profiling? other than it is not PC? If you put up a DUI checkpoint do you profile for minty breath or the smell of Jack Daniels? you're looking for Mexican and Central American illegals...so you pull over Larry Bird or Magic Johnson? Last time i looked most mexicans and CA illegals have latino skin tones...my god, this isn't rocket science here. It's as easy as catching bank robbers if they all came out of the bank with a giant BK tatooed on their heads. how hard could it be? Once the crop of illegals is thinned out and the border secured then the racial profiling is stopped.