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To: TopCat who wrote (571211)	6/11/2010 11:47:22 AM
From: koan	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1583403

>>"Of course, there never was any global cooling" Of course not....that Ice Age thingy never happened.<, But most top scientists do not believe that is what is causing global warming. And if they are right then we are in big big trouble as we may already have passed a tipping point. Google Permian age if you want to see what could happen. Even if the chance of the scientists being correct is only 10% (and they think it is over 90%) we should be terrified for the future of our children. Arctic temperatures are running 12 to 17 degress above normal. Scroll down the left side for the normal temperatures, record was 54 degrees; and then scroll down the right side and see this weeks temperatures. And 2010 is a new record for arctic ice melt so we have record open water in the arctic. wunderground.com In Juneau Alaska last year we broke summer temperature records, had virtually no winter, and are matching record warm temperatures this year and also have a lack of rain and snow. The mountain tops have as much snow left as we usually have in September.

To: TopCat who wrote (571211)	6/11/2010 5:19:14 PM
From: koan	2 Recommendations Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1583403

>>"Of course, there never was any global cooling" Of course not....that Ice Age thingy never happened.<< Well, let me be specifically responsive then. You cannot draw the conclusion that there is no manmade global warming just because we have had periods of warming and cooling. There is a saying in economics that goes: Post hoc ergo propter hoc, Latin for "after this, therefore because of this", is a logical fallacy (of the questionable cause variety) which states, "Since that event followed this one, that event must have been caused by this one." It is often shortened to simply post hoc and is also sometimes referred to as false cause, coincidental correlation or correlation not causation. It is subtly different from the fallacy cum hoc ergo propter hoc, in which the chronological ordering of a correlation is insignificant. Post hoc is a particularly tempting error because temporal sequence appears to be integral to causality. The fallacy lies in coming to a conclusion based solely on the order of events, rather than taking into account other factors that might rule out the connection." You are drawing a conclusion based on no evidence. So what that there were periods of warming and cooling? They were caused by specific actions in nature many of which are discernable. E.e. during the Permian age volcanos spewed the CO2 into the atmosphere which raised the temperature which then melted the methane hydrates which raised the temperature even more and the hot planet wiped out 95% of all life on earth. This time we are spewing the CO2 from our use of energy. Same trip just a different mechanism. The scientific community has conducted massive science and they are better than 99% sure they are right. So what you are doing, is looking right into those facts; and ignoring them.