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To: X Y Zebra who wrote (733)6/25/2010 10:12:34 AM
From: X Y Zebra  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 764
 
2010 European Grand Prix at Valencia * Free Practice *

1.- Alonso
2,- Webber
3.- Vettel
4.- Roseberg
5.- Hamilton
6.- Kubica
7.- Massa
8.- Sutil
9.- Button
10.- Barrichello
11.- Schumacher
12.- Liuzzi
13.- Petrov
14.- Kobayashi
15.- de la Rosa
16.- Buemi
17.- Hulkenberg
18.- Alguersari
19.- Kovalanien
20.- Truli
21.- Glock
22.- di Grassi
23.- Senna
24.- Chandok

Most drivers running with full fuel load Valencia is a street circuit, in which passing is difficult to accomplish

Pre-Europe analysis - Ferrari feeling upbeat for Valencia

Fernando Alonso (ESP) Ferrari in the FIA Press Conference. Formula One World Championship, Rd 9, European Grand Prix, Preparations, Valencia Spain, Thursday, 24 June 2010 McLaren MP4/25 and Ferrari F10 in the pits. Formula One World Championship, Rd 9, European Grand Prix, Preparations, Valencia Spain, Thursday, 24 June 2010 Ferrari F10 detail. Formula One World Championship, Rd 9, European Grand Prix, Preparations, Valencia Spain, Thursday, 24 June 2010 Ferrari F10 front wings. Formula One World Championship, Rd 9, European Grand Prix, Preparations, Valencia Spain, Thursday, 24 June 2010 Fernando Alonso (ESP) Ferrari F10. Formula One World Championship, Rd 8, Canadian Grand Prix, Qualifying Day, Montreal, Canada, Saturday, 12 June 2010

Ferrari are very optimistic that they will turn a corner this weekend and fight for victory, now that their F10 is fitted with the ‘blown’ diffuser that is one of the keys to Red Bull’s aerodynamic advantage. The system basically uses the positioning of the exhaust system to direct hot air over the double diffuser, increasing the level of downforce. Cleverly, Ferrari gave Fernando Alonso a brief shakedown run in the revised car at Fiorano last week, as part of a filming project.

“I think we have been improving the car every race more or less, so I think it is a matter of how much the others improve as well to see a clearer step ahead, a step forward,” said the Spaniard, who believed he could have won last time out in Canada. “I think we are optimistic. We are happy with the job we have done in these last couple of weeks, so we arrive in Valencia with a good package in our car but we remain very calm about our expectation as other teams were not watching television in these last two weeks, so I think everybody will bring updates here. Hopefully ours is a little bit better than others.”

Of the ‘test’, Alonso added, tongue-in-cheek: “The feeling was very good. I was running behind a car with cameras, so it was very good at 60km/h, very stable! We also did some laps without a car in front but we had like 10 cameras on the car and on the helmet, so it was not very comfortable to drive. It was also my first time driving a Ferrari Formula One car at Fiorano, so I really have no idea but I think tomorrow we will have a better answer. We expect a step up with the car, a little bit quicker, but as I said before, I think all the other teams will bring some new parts here, so I think the most important thing is to confirm that we are competitive here, as we did in Canada, and we need to keep improving the car. Silverstone, Hockenheim, Budapest… it’s not one evolution in the car, in the year and you stop. This is a job that we need to keep doing until Abu Dhabi, so there is a long way to go but we are optimistic.”

Both Alonso and Ferrari chief Luca di Montezemolo were very critical of the role of backmarkers in Montreal.

“I think the problems lapping people in Canada…” Alonso began, before deciding there was no point in pursuing the line of thought. “There’s nothing we can do now. We still think that we lost the opportunity to do something better out of that race. I think that at the end of the year, over 19 races, everything balances out. So sometimes it happens to us, I’m sure it happens to the others at other races. It’s already happened, and we didn’t realise it and we took advantage maybe in China or Malaysia... we don’t know. It happened to us, it was very obvious because we were fighting for the win but we also know that there were some problems in other races. I think there’s nothing to say in tomorrow’s briefing. We also know that it’s not the easiest part of the race, to drive those cars, but it’s the same for everybody, so we just need to do a better job next time.

“And for next year, the 107 percent rule… I don’t think that next year we will see the difference that we’ve seen this year. I think the three new teams arrived very late this year and I think next year they will be better prepared and the gap will be closer.

“I think it will be interesting to see this race, how it goes. There have been some circuits better, some circuits with problems, some up and down for the team performance in the last couple of races, so hopefully we can continue the performance we saw in Montreal. The line that put us in a competitive level fighting with McLaren and Red Bull. In Turkey we were not quick enough, so just try to confirm the feeling of Canada and be competitive here again and hopefully finish on the podium again.”



To: X Y Zebra who wrote (733)6/27/2010 5:27:40 PM
From: X Y Zebra  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 764
 
2010 European Grand Prix at Valencia

In summary, a pitiful result to a mismanaged sets of rules, in regards to the safety car. Not taking away from Sebastien Vettel clear victory.
The rest is a Mickey-Mouse version of the race, due to a rule that was not applied as it is supposed. the purpose of the safety car is to allow
for time and space for the marshals to remove debris from accidents. in this instance, Mark Weber's crash on lap 8. safety car is supposed
to come out IN FRONT OF THE LEAD CAR. (Vettel) in this way, no one has an unfair advantage. The worst is that any driver with a built out
gap, will lose it. This is well worth the safety of track marshals and drivers as the marshals will clear out the debris.

However, as shown by the video, as the safety car enters the track, Hamilton does not yield (as he is supposed to) and accelerates . Alonso
et all behind, HAVE to follow the safety car. (at the time Alonso was sitting in third place)... so... how come, the safety car did not wait for Vettel
to catch up, and/or instructed to wait... (same with Hamilton...) after all... they DO HAVE RADIOS. instead, they give Vettel and Hamiilton a
HUGE advantage. Supposedly, there are penalties for doing what you are not supposed to do... what penalty and why ?

The objective is to erase ANY motivation for a driver to 'get away' with this, and second so the driver LOSES ALL GAIN.

That certainly did not happened today. not only that... but i do not understand why would hamilton get a "current" drive through penalty, and the
rest of drivers (8 or 9) have a "5 second penalty" *don't forget*, Michael Schumacher received a 25 second penalty for a MUCH LESSER OFFENSE....

and since we are at this....

I believe that "Street Races" (with the exception of Monte Carlo -which continues to be held due to tradition), should not be held in the first place.
There are no run off areas, barriers are too close, and an accident like today, leads to the charade witnessed.

Race begun promisingly with Hamilton and Alonso slipping by Webber, only to become a procession after Mark's accident.

The best highlight was Kamui Kobayashi running third, until a few laps from the end when he had to come for the obligatory tire change
(another mikey mouse rule, btw) and with fresh tires, he mounted an excellent challenge against Fernando Alonso and Sebastien Buemi,
who in fairness, had worn out tires
nevertheless... brilliant effort by Kobayashi passing both drivers, Buemi literary in the last corner.



Pos Driver Team Laps Gap

1 Vettel Red Bull 57 1h 40:29.571
2 Hamilton McLaren 57 + 0:05.042
3 Button McLaren 57 + 0:12.658
4 Barrichello Williams 57 + 0:25.627
5 Kubica Renault 57 + 0:27.122
6 Sutil Force India 57 + 0:30.168
7 Kobayashi Sauber 57 + 0:30.965
8 Alonso Ferrari 57 + 0:32.809
9 Buemi Toro Rosso 57 + 0:36.299
10 Rosberg Mercedes 57 + 0:44.382
11 Massa Ferrari 57 + 0:46.621
12 de la Rosa Sauber 57 + 0:47.414
13 Alguersuari Toro Rosso 57 + 0:48.239
14 Petrov Renault 57 + 0:48.287
15 Schumacher Mercedes 57 + 0:48.826
16 Liuzzi Force India 57 + 0:50.890
17 di Grassi Virgin 56 + 1 Lap
18 Chandhok HRT 55 + 2 Laps
19 Glock Virgin 55 + 2 Laps
20 Senna HRT 55 + 2 Laps
21 Trulli Lotus 43 + 4 Laps
Ret Hulkenberg Williams 49 Exhaust Failure
Ret Kovalainen Lotus 8 Accident Damage
Ret Webber Red Bull 8 Accident

Fastest Lap: Button (McLaren) 1:38.766 (Lap 54)


2010 Formula One Driver's World Championship


tThe championship begins to take shape.... point distances starting to grow and become more difficult to reach for those behind... The most salient point is tht Red Bull, in spite of the clear superiority of their package, (given qualifying results and speeds), the actual results show McLaren taking a healthy lead.


Pos Driver Team Pts Wins Poles F/Laps

1 Hamilton McLaren 127 2 1 2
2 Button McLaren 121 2 1
3 Vettel Red Bull 115 2 4 1
4 Webber Red Bull 103 2 4 2
5 Alonso Ferrari 98 1 1
6 Kubica Renault 83 1
7 Rosberg Mercedes 75
8 Massa Ferrari 67
9 Schumacher Mercedes 34
10 Sutil Force India 31
11 Barrichello Williams 19
12 Liuzzi Force India 12
13 Kobayashi Sauber 7
14 Buemi Toro Rosso 7
15 Petrov Renault 6 1
16 Alguersuari Toro Rosso 3
16 Hulkenberg Williams 1