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To: DebtBomb who wrote (135023)6/15/2010 1:08:31 PM
From: ChanceIs  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 206209
 
>>>It can shut ALL gas and oil rigs down in the gulf, because they need clean water<<<

Simmons mentioned the possibility that refineries along the Gulf coast might have to shut down for the same reason - lack of water.

Regardless of whether one buys into Simmons ten sigma talk, one has to figure that the current spill rate will continue for another couple of months - about 2X the current spill. That volume of oil will have far reaching and unanticipated effects.

It is another example of the difficulties of using dispersants. If for example my power plant needed cooling water, and the inlet was fouled at the surface, I might be able to run a line out another 50 yards far below the surface. But if the oil is dispersed/suspended, then I have a problem. How many chemical processing plants along the GOM use water?? All of them I would expect. How about ships? Certainly all manner of pleasure water craft in their engine cooling systems. No outboard engines on the GOM for a few years!?!?!?!



To: DebtBomb who wrote (135023)6/15/2010 1:22:28 PM
From: Triffin2 Recommendations  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 206209
 
More on Matt Simmons and BP blowout ..

Saw this interview with a Barron's reporter ..

If these 'quotes' are accurate; no wonder Simmons & Co.
publicly stated that Matt's comments were his alone ..

Here's the text ..

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By Tiernan Ray

Last week, I cited an interview with Matt Simmons, noted energy pundit and head of boutique investment house Simmons & Co., written by Fortune magazine’s Nin-Hai Tseng.

Simmons in the piece predicted BP would be filing for Chapter 11 in a month. I caught up with Simmons this morning by phone to review his thoughts on the matter. He still thinks BP is headed for Chapter 11.

In response to calls for a $20 billion escrow to be set aside by BP, Simmons concludes the company’s as good as insolvent.

“They have $5 billion in cash, a $5 billion line of credit, and a $10B emergency line of credit,” says Simmons, “and they boast about how their operating cash flow is $17 billion per quarter. But that’s all consumed in capital expenditures. This outlay [the $20 billion] is going to consumer everything they have.”

When pressed about whether the company might not simply get other lines of credit, Simmons responded, “From whom? Who’s going to do that?” Perhaps Goldman Sachs (GS), which is apparently helping the company avoid a hostile takeover.

In any case, Simmons says a voluntary bankruptcy filing would allow the company to “stack claims” against it, to better manage how it has to pay.

Simmons has a 4,000-share short sale on BP that he picked up when the stock hit $37. That’s in addition to a prior 4,000-share short sale he made at $48 a couple weeks prior. “It’s going to zero,” he says of BP stock.

Mind you, Simmons has an interest and a deep investment in moving beyond fossil fuels.

Simmons called me from northern Maine, where he was at the University of Maine’s Ocean Energy Institute, a project to develop off-shore wind power facilities.

Yesterday, he entertained Republican Senator Susan Collins and Secretary of Energy Steven Chu at the Institute. He says Chu was impressed with Simmon’s vision of off-shore wind turbines on floating platforms with blades that stretch 80 stories high. Each wind turbine will drive a 50 megawatt power plant that will drive a process that’s like electrolysis, creating liquid ammonia that can be sent back to land as a fuel.

“This is such a great resource,” said Simmons of the project, which has been in development for three years.

Turning to the spill, Simmons reiterated the rather surprising conclusion that the current “top kill” effort by BP, as well as the planned relief wells, will not stop the Gulf spill.

He says he talked over the weekend with scientists on board the Thomas Jefferson, a research boat used by the National Oceanographic Administration.

The chat confirmed his suspicion that the leak that BP is focusing on at the “riser” is not the problem. The real problem is a gaping hole at the “well head,” 8 miles away.

“The riser leak is a deception,” says Simmons. “The hole is in the well head — it’s the well bore.”

Asked why such a massive hole would not be readily apparent and reported on, Simmons answers that the Thomas Jefferson was previously prevented from coming closer than 20 miles from the site of the explosion. This past week, it got within three miles. However, it’s still impossible to see anything at the well’s depth of 23,000 feet.

“Think of it like a forrest fire,” said Simmons. “You can’t get into the wilderness, you can only climb into a plane and fly over it, and when you do, you see that the fire is getting bigger every day.”

In other words, the massive hole at the well head, or the well bore, is still inferred at this point based on the rate of the spill, not actually seen.

Simmons sees further ripple effects from what he considers the massive size of the leak.

“When they [the Thomas Jefferson] finally got the permission to circle the three-mile radius,” of the well, “once they got up wind [of the blast], within 20 minutes all the crew [of the boat] were nauseous, and several people are still in the hospital. There is benzine coming out of that stuff. If a hurricane finally blows up the Gulf, we could have millions of people die,” on the Gulf coast.

BP shares today are up 96 cents, or 3%, at $31.63.

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Triff ..