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To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (572440)	6/18/2010 2:58:22 PM
From: longnshort	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1578422

there wasn't time before the big bang, time,matter and energy didn't exist in this universe. I know it's over your pin head

To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (572440)	6/18/2010 3:14:43 PM
From: one_less	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1578422

"That's fine but appears to more of a description of the Big Bang rather than the concept of time.....there was time before the Bang just as there are years before Jesus..." You asked for facts wrt the origins of the Universe. There were years before Jesus. That is an historical fact, verifiable by historical records, calendars, and scientific measures of time prior to Jesus, which has nothing to do with the topic. We can consider the concept of time before the Big Bang but there is nothing to determine units of time before the big bang so the only close description we would be something like 'an eternity of the moment.' If you have something other than that to substantiate your claim as fact... where is it. There are three different temperature scales also ie Fahrenheit (body temp = 100), Celsius (water freezing and boiling 0-100) and Kelvin (0 = the cessation of atom motion. So what? That information has nothig to do with the topic. I am using classical science which uses the concept of time in relationship to the Universe in this way... The classical version of the Big Bang cosmological model of the universe contains a causal singularity at the start of time (t=0), where all time like geodesics have no extensions into the past. Extrapolating backward to this hypothetical time 0 results in a universe of size 0 in all spatial dimensions, infinite density, infinite temperature, and infinite space-time curvature.