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To: unclewest who wrote (369530)	6/20/2010 5:37:04 AM
From: LindyBill	4 Recommendations Respond to of 793916

I have been unhappy with the ROEs since 2001. They are the worst now they have ever been. The Marines have refused to obey them. That is why the top Marine General with insurgency experience was passed over by Gates for Commandant last week, IMO. He appointed a flyboy who has been responsible for the Marine VTO disaster.

To: unclewest who wrote (369530)	6/20/2010 3:39:03 PM
From: KLP	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793916

Re: Obama's War…Most of us here on PfP have said to GET OUT of Afghanistan if we aren't going to be there to have the soldiers win. Obviously, Obama doesn't know diddly squat about winning a war, nor does he really care. "Hamstring the operation and make a show of force" is all he is doing. If I were a parent or relative of one of our soldiers there, I'd set up a website, and gather as many relatives as possible for a Relative's March on Congress and the White House, to protest….and invite anyone else interested to join us. Get some National attention on the situation! NCO serving in Afghanistan: explains why the rules of engagement for U.S. troops are "too prohibitive for coalition forces to achieve sustained tactical successes." --> Receiving mortar fire during an overnight mission, his unit called for a 155mm howitzer illumination round to be fired to reveal the enemy's location. >>>>>The request was rejected "on the grounds that it may cause collateral damage." <<<<< --> IED: caused unit casualities: "There were villagers laughing at the U.S. casualties" and "two suspicious individuals were seen fleeing the scene and entering a home." U.S. forces "are no longer allowed to search homes without Afghan National Security Forces personnel present." .>>>>>asked Afghan police to search the house, the police refused on the grounds that the people in the house "are good people." <<<<< --> ……. unit came under heavy small-arms fire and rocket-propelled grenades (RPGs), and the unit asked for artillery fire on the enemy position. The response was a question: Where is the nearest civilian structure? "Judging distances," the NCO writes dryly, "can be difficult when bullets and RPGs are flying over your head." --> When the artillery support was denied because of fear of collateral damage, the unit asked for a "smoke mission" -- "to conceal our movement as we planned to flank and destroy the enemy." This request was granted -- but because of fear of collateral damage, >>>>> the round was deliberately fired one kilometer off the requested site, making "the smoke mission useless and leaving us to fend for ourselves." <<<<<