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To: heinz44 who wrote (3915)	6/21/2010 12:30:26 AM
From: X Y Zebra	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 5130

Not just a handball BUT any foul were the person stops a sure goal...sure goal-this is were the discretion comes in Those rules I believe are not the "newest"? Call Blatter he will tell you oh my dog...... heinz... there is a WORLD of difference between an involuntary hand ball, and a voluntary one. that's for starters.... then... the foul, IF indeed there is a genuine one (unlike the penalty in favor of italy today)... is a an entire different category.... AND just for kicks... if your statement were true... how come smith (from N. Zealand) was given ONLY a yellow card when 'allegedly' he committed a foul on the italian prima dona de Rossi, because if you see the replay.. yes, there is a shirt pull but NEVER a foul, and certainly NOT the reason for de Rossi to dive, which he did... <-- DE ROSSI is the one that should have received a RED CARD for his dive... HENCE --> your statement of automatic red card for either a handball or a foul would be an automatic red card is false. it is the INTENT that counts. and i know what a 'sure goal' and the discretion that comes along with it IS I KNOW THE RULES.... i was DRILLED on them... and i showed you the actual "LAWS OF THE GAME" there is not a single word that says.... a handball (or foul) is an automatic red card.... besides... read above, the New Zealand v Italy game proves you WRONG. in addition, as i explained, a foul is a "worse" offense than a handball. particularly if the handball is involuntary.... look, i played sweeper for years, and i HAD to know how to do clean tackles, because if not, the team would receive a penalty (if inside the box) and HANDS were OUT OF THE QUESTION, due to the risk involved... and i KNOW that there are many times when you go for the ball, the ball may hit you. there is a world of difference between that and INTENTIONALLY grabbing the ball. as i said, i was drilled on the rules. i was cautioned over and over: NOT to do a stupid thing such as getting a red card needlessly. (i.e. you leave your team with one man down) i do not have to call freaking Blabber, the coaches i had drilled me to death on this shit. (same with the off-side rule), which i continuously argued against the idea of moving forward to force the offside. why ? because if the referee did not see it, you were SOL and left your goalie alone with one, and sometimes two strikers.... a very risky play.... anyway..... as for your statement saying.... thats it for me on this,,,why?? because I know Im right roflmao well... i am sorry to inform you that just because you say so.... it does not make it true .... LOL ! i have given you PROOF (in the rules) and in today's game (New Zealand v Italia) that your statement is false. the plain facts are.... these fucking referees are inept, inconsistent, and a bunch of psychotic morons, because there is no rhyme, reason, or consistency as to how they judge these games.... THIS IS THE REASON WHY I GET SO PISSED OFF WHEN I SEE BAD REFEREES