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To: tejek who wrote (81866)	6/26/2010 8:02:37 PM
From: koan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

tejek, that is the point. How can you possivbly say this is not a national emergency? I didn't say it wasn't a national emergency. However, I disasgree with your characterization.......a national emergency on the order of WW II. Tad Allen and Obama apparently feel like you do. Which is why so many are upset with him. And it is going to get much much worse as the oil continues to spread. >>I think that most of the criticism directed at Obama and Allen has been unfair. Could they have done better? Of course........but everyone can do better at any task they do. Besides, Obama and Allen are only human, dealing with a disaster with which none of us have much experience.>> It has not been unfair. >>Almost no one can fish any more down there. Tens of thousands of people are losing their livelyhood and no end in sight and the disaster mounts. Why are the Gulf fishermen not as upset as you are?>> Are you kidding? Do you live on this planet? Do you know how many oystermen and fishermen have lost almost all their income. They are desparate. Do you ever watch the news? "The closed area now represents 78,597 square miles, which is approximately 32.5% of the Gulf of Mexico federal waters. This leaves more than two-thirds of Gulf federal waters available for fishing." Does that seem like an insignificant area to you? >>The entire gulf ecology is endangered. No one knows that for sure. Time will tell.>> So we wait until we are sure? Does that seem logical to you? Maybe we should wait on global warming until we are sure? What does it take a nuclear war to get you upset? What can I say? I learned If, the Rudyard Kipling poem, when I was in the sixth grade. It left a strong impression on me. Yeah, while that poem does not apply here. Quite the opposite. When you see a man drowning do you contemplate it or save him? Time was of the essense. Quick decisions were required.

To: tejek who wrote (81866)	6/27/2010 11:45:28 AM
From: koan	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 89467

It seems the oysters west of the Mississippi are OK, but all of the oyster beds east of the Mississippi clear to Florida are either inundated with oil, or are suspect now and oyster companies are closing their doors and thousands are losing there livelyhoods. The chef Paul Prudoe said they are getting seafood west of the Mississippi To: koan who wrote (28692) 6/27/2010 11:15:58 AM From: dylan murphy of 28839 We got back Sat from a vacation/tour of the oil damage in the gulf. First the weather was hot, hot, hot. Even for the South it was unbearable at times. Started in La and moved east to Miss., bama, and Florida. Saw lots of oil on the beaches in places and not so much other places. No doubt its only going to get worst. Unlike Katrina its harder for volunteers to go down there and help. With Katrina you could take food, clothes, and building materials and help with the cleanup. Not much a person can do right now. The people we met seemed resigned to their fate in many places. Actually the most angry ones I talked to were in Florida and they have the least damage right now. They fear what coming in the months ahead. Its really sad what's happening down there right now.

To: tejek who wrote (81866)	6/27/2010 1:51:24 PM
From: koan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

To: koan who wrote (28840) 6/27/2010 11:58:07 AM From: dylan murphy of 28842 Most down there don't get it either. We can look at earnings reports from oil companies since Katrina when the barrel price spiked and see they make billions each quarter. I would think they would have a detailed plan on every worst case scenario they think could happen. Once it happens enact the plan. Seems they are just reacting to everything. It could have been an accident, earthquake, or sabotage. A plan for this should have been in place imo.