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To: Skeeter Bug who wrote (257086)	6/27/2010 10:50:03 PM
From: yard_man	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

>> "do unto others as you have them do unto you" << This was the 2nd thing I thought of when neolib talked about extending the idea of reference frames to matters of philosophy and ethics. My own personal POV: It is hard for us to put ourselves in the shoes of others to consider their situation and how we would "feel" -- the golden rule seems like a first reasonable step in that direction. We can talk about the difficulties of doing it, until we are out of time to try it?? Then again, if higher law exists -- maybe the will and the follow-through to act brings deeper insight ... I'd sure like to think so!

To: Skeeter Bug who wrote (257086)	6/28/2010 1:11:33 AM
From: neolib	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

neolib, the problem is that what is good for someone often isn't good for another - at least at the time decisions get made. Its pretty clear that life involves conflicts whether you ascribe that to Good & Evil in a religious sense, or to evolution. I don't see that fact precluding the development of ethics/moral codes which are better placed wrt to a more universal POV. There is a link between intelligence and moral behavior independent of those two world views IMHO. The golden rule works in an evolutionary framework also, and is a very interesting issue.