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To: bentway who wrote (258873)	7/6/2010 9:47:21 PM
From: koan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

>>I think, as Peter says, we retain the ability to be completely barbaric. A few thousand years won't evolve that out. Civilization is an artificial construct that limits our barbarity. It can go away, as it has over and over in the past.<< I agree. After Rome crushed ancient Greece, it was almost 2,000 years before we again obtained the reason of the ancient Greeks. Will Durant: For barbarism is always around civilization, amid it and beneath it, ready to engulf it by arms, or mass migration, or unchecked fertility. Barbarism is like the jungle; it never admits its defeat; it waits patiently for centuries to recover the territory it has lost.” (p.265) I once wrote a paper looking for any thinkers to compare with Aristotle, Socrates, Plato or any one of a thousand ancient Greeks. There are few to none that I could find for hundreds of years. Even Marcus Aurelius was an intellectual lightweight compared to the Greeks. The say only 1% of the ancient Greeks writings survived. But what they had figured out was breathtaking. Some of their logic was not duplicated until the 1900's.