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To: Perspective who wrote (259237)	7/8/2010 10:51:18 AM
From: neolib	Respond to of 306849

Start enforcing it or else change it to something you will enforce. I generally agree with that. What I'm trying to figure out is what people actually want in the end that we can enforce. AFAIK, its lack of agreement what that should be which has prevented immigration reform. We have the following: 1) Producers like cheap labor, so the owners can get richer. They don't care per se about the longer term consequences of what their cheap labor does to society. 2) Consumers like cheaper products, but some are impacted by the job competition. 3) Plenty of people are xenophobic, and our particular immigrant labor issue because of the race/culture differences, threatens them. They see their own culture slipping away and being replaced by an alien one. Its not a left/right split as you find plenty of both taking either side of the issue (look at the Republican side: business/wealthy vs the rednecks). My view is that any country needs to come to terms with its own internal employment issues and not rely on foreign labor, or it accepts that if foreign labor is integral to its long term needs, that those foreigners have a path to full incorporation within the country. The notion that a country deserves a foreign servant class is one I have zero sympathy with.