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To: patron_anejo_por_favor who wrote (259303)7/8/2010 2:54:02 PM
From: neolibRead Replies (2) | Respond to of 306849
 
Easy. Not all illegals are farm workers. Not even a majority are.

Sure, the lower end of the service industries in general are full of them as well. But Americans don't want most those jobs either. I'm pretty sure all those industries bitch as well if you try to wack them.

and tax employers who do an enhanced employment tax to cover the social services needed for their stay here.

Why not simply increase minimum wages so Americans take the jobs? I'd rather see that than gerrymandering laws specifically to deal with foreign workers.


If the price of their employment goes up? Do prices go up or does increased automation take over. Technology RULES!


I've worked my entire professional career in automation, and although early on, automation made big inroads on manual labor (think assembly lines), the rate of that has decreased, and oddly enough, I'd guess more white collar jobs have fallen prey to technology (back office computer apps) in recent times. The sort of manual labor done by most Mexicans doesn't seem to be in great danger any time soon. When I was starting my career of course we were all sure AI would be doing all the dirty work 20-30 years later, but it has not panned out that way.

There is money being thrown at farm robotics, but not much practical and competitive has emerged. AFAIK, the fundamental problem is still visions systems capable of working in cluttered environments. Vision systems work very well in more structured environments like packing lines. However, even if we could build a system capable of picking produce as fast as one Mexican, it would likely cost in the >$1M range, and that is not economical.



To: patron_anejo_por_favor who wrote (259303)7/8/2010 3:51:01 PM
From: Jim McMannisRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 306849
 
In the everglades they used to import contract labor from Jamaica to cut the sugar cane. Right through Miami international airport on to buses up to Belle Glade. Big, tall Jamacian guys.

Nowadays it's cut with machines.

So yeah, a lot of it's gone to automation. Illegals take a lot of other jobs.

In high school we picked watermelons. Pay was real good too.